Comment by ViewTrick1002

Comment by ViewTrick1002 5 hours ago

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The problem is that western new built nuclear power costs 18-24 cents/kWh when running at 100% 24/7 without backup, transmission fees, taxes etc. based on Vogtle, HPC, FV3, Polish Ap1000s, EPR2s etc.

We can create imaginary renewable scenarios as well.

For example: "Assuming renewables and storage costs get an 80% price reduction (like you just gave nuclear power) then YY will happen".

Moldoteck 2 hours ago

Fla3 min profitability limit is 9ct and expected limit is about 12-14ct. And mind you 9ct scenario assumes 90%cf, while most US plants are 92-98%cf.

And that's for a totally f-up project... EPR2 isn't built yet so we don't know how it'll go per kwh, if EDF doesn't delay it for 20y it'll be in 6-10ct range, similar to Barakah built by Korea

Most of the cost in ren nowadays is transmission cost and firming cost, both don't have a big margin to shave, unlike nuclear

  • ViewTrick1002 an hour ago

    > Fla3 min profitability limit is 9ct and expected limit is about 12-14ct.

    When assuming extremely subsidised interest rates. You can do the same for the competition to get an apples to apples comparison, but I know you don't want to do that.

    > And that's for a totally f-up project... EPR2 isn't built yet so we don't know how it'll go per kwh, if EDF doesn't delay it for 20y it'll be in 6-10ct range, similar to Barakah built by Korea

    The EPR2 subsidy proposal, yet to be accepted by the european commission, is 11 cents/kWh and interest free loans. Sum freely. Stop making stuff up.

    > Most of the cost in ren nowadays is transmission cost and firming cost, both don't have a big margin to shave, unlike nuclear

    How will you force anyone to buy that horrifyingly expensive new built nuclear electricity?

    Here's an article for you:

    The Quiet Unraveling of the Power Grid Monopoly

    https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Quiet-Unravel...