Comment by free652

Comment by free652 12 hours ago

I switched to Debian/Cinnamon few weeks ago. I am fairly good with the server sides of things, but the desktop a little painful.

Screens dont wake up properly, sometimes only one screens wakes up, sometimes one screen wakes up with a wrong resolution. The usual linux desktop problems where nothing really works and finding a solution is very hard to many different permutations of hardware / os / kernel / drivers / window manager / etc.

I have the framework desktop with AMD 395+

My windows ssd is plugged and I can boot it directly using virt-manager, so thats kinda solves some windows specific stuff like tax software.

WD-42 12 hours ago

You are using a distro that is generally very behind on software versions and doesn’t bundle non free software (Debian) on a laptop with brand new hardware. Additionally, you are running a DE (cinnamon) which is really designed for a specific distro (Mint) which you are not using.

If you want stuff to just work you might want to try using a more up to date distro with a mainstream desktop. Stock Ubuntu or Fedora would probably work fine for you.

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free652 12 hours ago

debian 13 is using kernel 6.12 vs ubuntu 24 6.14. I don't think it's a kernel issue, and more that amd drivers aren't there yet for the new hardware.
running the latest also is problematic, i.e. a new kernel upgrade that blows thing up.
and that's the main difference between linux and windows, windows just works, osx just works, linux is a minefield of different quirks.

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- WD-42 11 hours ago
  
  The amd drivers might not there, and they will continue to not be there on the version of the kernel you are using and choosing to be stuck on by using Debian. Drivers are part of the kernel in Linux, it’s not how windows works. Ubuntu and Fedora are not unstable, you are just choosing pain for yourself.
  
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  free652 11 hours ago
  
  >Drivers are part of the kernel in Linux
  While the drivers at the runtime are part of the kernel, they are not distributed as part of the kernel.
  My drivers are *latest* -> 6.16.6.30200100-2255209.24.04
  https://instinct.docs.amd.com/projects/amdgpu-docs/en/latest...
  Debian is *stable*, but you are so far only proving my point in my original post.
  If you are going to download ubuntu, the version proposed is 24.04 that has older kernel version than my debian 13.
  https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop -> Ubuntu 24.04.3 LTS -> Kernel 6.8
  
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quaffapint 12 hours ago

This has been my issue as well - screens waking or not waking up. On latest Linux Mint and everything is great except when switching back and forth inputs between my personal and work laptop (running Windows), I have to do it twice going to my personal laptop or else the external monitor won't show.

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