Comment by grigio

Comment by grigio 15 hours ago

20 replies

I hope one day to upgrade my laptop to a Honor/Huawei AMD Ryzen AI computer to run Linux. Modern Macbooks unfortunatly do not run Linux and the other laptop manifacturers basically produce expensive trash laptops

primer42 15 hours ago

Modern MacBooks DO run Linux

Check out https://asahilinux.org/

  • TheDong 15 hours ago

    > Supported processors - M1 and M2, not M3 or M4

    The M2 models came out in 2022. You can't buy them new anymore.

    Asahi linux doesn't support any of the currently sold macbooks, so I think it's fair to say modern macbooks don't run linux.

    This is also at Apple's mercy, if enough people do it there's a non-zero chance they lock things down further. They've done even more consumer-unfriendly things before.

  • al_borland 15 hours ago

    Looking at the support page, that comes with a lot of asterisks still.

  • mmcnl 14 hours ago

    Not really, it's a nice tech demo at best.

rjdj377dhabsn 15 hours ago

What's so great about Huawei laptops?

I've been using an Asus EliteBook for the last 3 years. Despite taking a beating, the build quality has held up flawlessly and with 32 GB of RAM, 1 kg form factor, and great battery life, I have no reason to upgrade yet.

  • everdrive 15 hours ago

    > What's so great about Huawei laptops?

    Unlike other laptops, there is always the lingering fear of a Chinese backdoor.

    • axiologist 15 hours ago

      I'd rather be concerned about friendly fire from our own. As an US American, i'd rather be concerned about big tech and government backdoors than anything else. Especially in the current atmosphere of doom inside the US.

    • guerrilla 15 hours ago

      Because we all know ASUS doesn't install backdoors by default...

      • rjdj377dhabsn 14 hours ago

        Backdoors in the OS or firmware?

        I always use Linux, so I don't care what software it came with. If you're suggesting there are firmware backdoors, I'd like to see your evidence.

        • guerrilla 12 hours ago

          There have been known vulnerabilities in ASUS firmware, but I was referring to Armoury Crate which is forcefully pushed on Windows users.

          > I'd like to see your evidence.

          I think this is a really bad epistemological stance in this case.

  • grigio 14 hours ago

    Build quality is better and do not have USA backdoors

ivankra 10 hours ago

Nonsense. I've been running Linux just fine as my daily driver on Macbook M4 for a year. Besides battery life (VM is kinda heavy on it) and some minor issues (fewer than you'd think, especially with Vulkan landing in UTM today) it's the best Linux laptop I've owned ever so far. I like macOS as much as the next Linux user here, but it's fairly decent as a hypervisor. If anything, at least it comes with UI unlike Intel ME.

fragmede 14 hours ago

In case you hadn't heard of Framework, they're making modular laptops with the intention of reducing e-waste.

http://framework.computer

  • mmcnl 14 hours ago

    Repairable laptops don't reduce e-waste. You replace the mainboard and then what? You have a spare mainboard that sits there collecting dust. The best way to prevent e-waste is to build durable laptops that last a lifetime. Like Dell, HP and Lenovo have been doing for years (while also being very repairable at the same time).

    • nrp 11 hours ago

      We have open source documentation and CAD around the Mainboards to enable people to reuse them as single board computers or mini PCs after upgrading them out of their laptops. Even if the original owner of the Mainboard has no use for that, the functionality means it has resale value for others to use, reducing waste.

  • grigio 14 hours ago

    Frameworks computers are expensive, you aren't reducing the e-waste because on amd ryzen ai laptops the ram is soldered like in the other laptops from other manifacturers

    • nrp 11 hours ago

      That is incorrect. All of our laptops have modular, upgradable memory. Our Framework Desktop is a mini PC that does not because AMD’s Ryzen AI Max platform doesn’t support it. Regardless, we maximized modularity and reuseability on that product too by following PC standards. It uses a MiniITX form factor, standard 120mm fan, and FlexATX power supply.

    • fragmede 12 hours ago

      Don't let perfect be the enemy of the good. They're expensive because they don't have the volume that other manufacturers have. If you dig in my comment history, you'll see me complain about the soldered in ram as well, and some of their other decisions. However their modular configuration is still better than the rest of them.