Retr0id 4 days ago

Nobody who was writing code before LLMs existed "needs" an LLM, but they can still be handy. Procfs parsing trivialities are the kind of thing LLMs are good at, although apparently it still takes a human to say "why not using an existing library that solves this, like https://pkg.go.dev/github.com/prometheus/procfs"

  • Jach 4 days ago

    Sometimes LLMs will give a "why not..." or just mention something related, that's how I found out about https://recoll.org/ and https://www.ventoy.net/ But people should probably more often explicitly prompt them to suggest alternatives before diving in to produce something new...

  • otabdeveloper4 4 days ago

    > Procfs parsing trivialities are the kind of thing LLMs are good at

    Have you tried it? Procfs trivialities is exactly the kind of thing where an LLM will hallucinate something plausible-looking.

    Fixing LLM hallucinations takes more work and time than just reading manpages and writing code yourself.

    • Retr0id 4 days ago

      Claude code can read manpages too

      • otabdeveloper4 4 days ago

        If I'd ever feel the urge to misengineer a rube goldberg contraption to manage my vibe coder LLM output I'll get back to you.

        But at the moment I feel like all that sounds suspiciously like actual work.

      • delusional 4 days ago

        It cant "read" anything. It can include the man page in the prompt, but it can never "read" it.

        • Retr0id 4 days ago

          If the output is working code I don't really care whether it's reading, "reading", or """reading"""

littlestymaar 4 days ago

Neither do you need and IDE, syntax highlighting or third party libraries, yet you use all of them.

There's nothing wrong for a software engineer about using LLMs as an additional tool in his toolbox. The problem arises when people stops doing software engineering because they believe the LLM is doing the engineering for them.

  • otabdeveloper4 4 days ago

    I don't use IDEs that require more time and effort investment than they save.

    You mileage may vary, though. Lots of software engineers love those time and effort tarpits.

    • littlestymaar 3 days ago

      I don't know what “tarpit” you're talking about.

      Every IDE I've used just worked out of the box, be it Visual Studio, Eclipse, or anything using the language server protocol.

      Having the ability to have things like method auto-completion, go-to-definition and symbol renaming is a net productivity gain from the minute you start using it and I couldn't imagine this being a controversial take in 2025…

      • otabdeveloper4 a day ago

        > I don't know what “tarpit” you're talking about.

        Really? You don't know software developers that would rather futz around with editor configs and tooling and libraries and etc, etc, all day every day instead of actually shipping the boring code?

        You must be working in a different industry.