Comment by holg

If you look at a map of the fiber-optic network in the US, my parents spent most of the 90s surveying the portion along the Gulf coast from Texas to Florida and up the Atlantic coast to New England for Sprint, MCI, Level 3, and other companies that no longer exist and AutoLISP was used to generate most of their drawings.

From what I can remember, we made a spreadsheet template that captured the title block information and a list of bearings and distances with some optional columns for field notes, landmarks/monuments, elevations and other measurements, etc. and I wrote some AutoLISP code that would generate an overview drawing and a set of scale drawings for the route. It figured out the bounds for each segment based on the scale and drawing size and then drew the route like a turtle and added the various callouts and a consistent title block and legend. There was also some ability to draw details about the railroad/pipeline whose right of way was being used, but I don't remember exactly how it worked.

My mom (secretarially trained typist, self-taught Lotus/Excel wiz, former drafting assistant at an RBOC) would enter everything into the template and use it to generate basis drawings which they might then tweak and finalize by hand. It dramatically reduced the amount of time they spent creating drawings to the point they could usually finish the drawings for a week of surveying in a couple of hours. I like to think of it as my small contribution to the Internet.

I was in high school at the time and taught myself AutoLISP from some combination of in-app docs/help and mall bookstore fare. Now I desperately want to go dig through floppy disks at my parents' place to see if any remnants remain to look back at how younger me did everything. It was the first truly useful software that I ever wrote, and in hindsight, might've planted the brainworm that led me to Clojure decades later :)

Ah, AutoLisp, that brings back the memories.

I can tell you that a good number of the design drawings for the higher floors in the Venetian resort in Las Vegas were assembled with AutoLisp scripts. The scripts I created grabbed components from other drawings that were already made to assemble a first pass set of drawings for floors that hadn't been fully designed yet, since the floors all had components of other floors.

They were still in the design process for the upper floors, while the lower floors had already been finished and they were moving up the building.

We were on the same page. I also built something similar for a Conveyor company here in Canada in the early 90's. We parameterized all their tech drawings (or at least the initial versions) from their component libraries. Was a great project. Not sure how long they used it, they eventually acquired the resources to support it internally (I was an independent AutoLISP contractor). Good times back then. I haven't done AutoLISP in years now but great to see it's still around.

AutoLISP is how I learned LISP back in the 80's. I probably used it for about twenty years. I wrote a massive amount of code to automate ACAD use in three areas: Schematic Capture, PCB Layout and Broadcast Facility design and Construction.

The first two were complimentary. Before that I was laying out PCB's by hand using (who can remember?) Vector tools and Xacto knives. Switching to ACAD with AutoLISP-based automation was a game changer.

Broadcast facilities are not very different from data centers, in the sense that you have loads of racks filled with equipment. I would say that one of the key differences was that the equipment was not as homogenous as it might be in data centers. Back then I was very involved in some massive studio projects, both in terms of facility design (not the architecture, the design and installation of the technology) and custom software/hardware for the same industry. Once again, in the early days all wiring diagrams were being done the old fashion way, with pencil and D-size paper on a drawing table.

I started with ACAD version 1.0 or 1.1, I can't remember. This ran on an 8086 CPM computer build on an S-100 frame. It actually had an 8087 math coprocessor board and another board with 512K (you read that right) of RAM to mount as a RAM disk. The computer had 64K of RAM. So, yeah, early ACAD ran on a system with 64K of RAM.

The studio AutoLISP software was the most extensive. It took advantage of 3D features to do such things route cables between equipment in different racks and rooms as well as compute the required cable lengths. It would generate cable cut lists and labels for the wiring crew, etc.

This also included managing a symbol library for these designs, much as a tool like KiCAD or Altium (which has now officially gone to shit!) manages both schematic symbol and PCB footprints for ECAD work. The equipment definitions included such things as input/output signal types, required cable type, connector types, wiring schematic and rack mount models (for laying out where in the racks each device would be installed).

This is work that I evolved over years as we designed and built many installations across the country. It was a valuable internal tool with competitive advantages. We left that industry behind a very long time ago, but I remember that time fondly. Technology was evolving at breakneck speed and there were incredible opportunities to develop innovative solutions across the entire technology stack, from embedded all the way up to custom equipment.

Nice project.

In 1990 I used AutoLISP to setup a tool that the state legislature would use for redistricting after the census. The AutoLISP let them interactively assign counties to districts while seeing the voter numbers and then export it to a CSV file which was read into a database. They could also export from that database back into AutoCAD using AutoLISP.

I get a 404 for that repo; is it private?

Also, the page you link to in the original post is in German; it might be nice to have an English page for the mostly English speaking audience here on HN

I wrote a ton of AutoLISP back in the day to do similar things to generate well logs for environmental and geotechnical reports. Fun stuff.

In 1990 I went to work at Autodesk and got to work on all kinds of stuff over the next decade -- AutoLISP was the bridge that got me into tech as a profession over the geology field work I was doing. It's been a wild ride.

I have a lot of interest in this space for infrastructure design. Thanks for sharing.