Comment by DetectDefect

Comment by DetectDefect 4 hours ago

6 replies

> an evaluation of the value granted by upgradability and repeatability of the machine

The market assigns almost no value to these tenets, nor do the consumers participating in it.

kelnos 9 minutes ago

Your assertion seems to be trivially proven false, given that Framework still exists as a going concern.

Though I suppose what you say is perhaps still true, if you allow "almost" to do a lot of work.

Frotag 4 hours ago

I guess repair-ability only matters if you expect the laptop to break. And there's no benchmarks for durability. But yeah I agree that upgrade-ability is of dubious value for most people.

  • fmajid an hour ago

    Enterprises that buy ThinkPads do care about maintainability and Lenovo does provide parts and detailed instructions to repair almost every aspect of their machines.

  • KerrAvon 2 hours ago

    Apple continues to be the elephant in the repairability room. You want something that likely won’t need repair ever for its useful lifetime, a current MacBook is worth looking at. Upgradeability, nope.

    • robrain 20 minutes ago

      Yup, Apple user since 2001, desktop and laptop, 20ish years in an office environment used for 8+ hours a day, now 5 years retired. Total faults - zero. Desire to upgrade RAM before rest of machine needed updates (eg storage+CPU+screen) - zero. Dissatisfaction with "Apple model": zero.

      But... lately I've felt a hankering to run Linux as a first-class citizen rather than a VM and that's definitely a gap in Mac functionality. I wouldn't sacrifice the five years I enjoy MacOS on my machines for the ability to then move them to Linux, but it would still be nice.

    • tim333 an hour ago

      They are less repairable but not impossible. My M1 Air has had a new usb port and screen. Battery probably soon.