Comment by andsoitis

Comment by andsoitis 3 hours ago

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> I think we should start separating discussion of “The Economy” from “human prosperity and wellbeing.”

Do you think Americans' prosperity and wellbeing is tanking?

We can still look at quantitative and qualitative data.

The Economist ran a story in July "What is the richest country in the world in 2025"[1] in which they compared economies in three different ways: GDP per person at market exchange rates, Adjusted for price differences, and Adjusted for prices and hours worked.

Against those three metrics, the US is ranked in 4th, 7th, and 6th positions.

Even these statistics may need further interpretation or further adjustment (the article does a great job explaining why adjustments are needed for places like Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Ireland, Luxembourg).

> While you are probably right in that The Economy, technically is growing, it doesn’t feel like it to normal people I know.

Pew's research shows that most Americans rate the US economy negatively, with a strong partisan divide. 44% of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents rat the economy as excellent or good (up 8 points from April) while only 10% of Democrats and Democratic-leaners say so.

Arguments for "better off" than, say, 3 years ago: strong job market, economic growth, reduced debt burden.

Arguments for "worse off" than, say, 3 years ago: high cost of living.

Notwithstanding the pessimism and the visible fact that people are not as economically strong as a pre-pandemic (but certainly much more than 2007 - 2008), I don't know that I would say the US economy is "tanking" OR that Americans are becoming destitute.

[1] https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/07/18/what-is-...

ryandrake 3 hours ago

I don't have access to read the article, but I wonder if they are looking at the median or the average. Averages don't tell the complete story like distributions do. When you just measure averages, a room with 1 person who has $10M plus 9 people who have nothing has the same prosperity as a room with 10 millionaires.