Comment by wolpoli

Comment by wolpoli 12 hours ago

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Black square vs redaction tool difference is well known if someone's job involves redacting PDF or just working with PDF. It's most likely that additional staffs were pulled in and weren't given enough training.

Dusseldorf 12 hours ago

Colleagues whose full time job is doing this sort of thing for various bits of the government have told me this is exactly the case here. People from all over the government have been deputized to redact these documents with little or no prior training.

  • culi 6 hours ago

    If there's that many people who have access to these files, I'm shocked there hasn't been leaks until this point.

    • Jcampuzano2 an hour ago

      When other people close to the case end up dead you have a pretty decent reason to not leak.

    • maeln 4 hours ago

      Why risk leaking it and potentially getting caught, when you can do a bad job redacting instead :)

      • themafia 3 hours ago

        I'd want them to leak their instructions given to them for this assignment.

    • lukan 5 hours ago

      If loyalty is the metric and not competence they were selected for ..

  • dboreham 11 hours ago

    CUaaS. Cover Up as a Service.

    • femto 10 hours ago

      With a sister website BAEaas (Backup and Extort as a service).

  • mindslight 12 hours ago

    I wonder if this activity is being used as a kind of loyalty test. Keep track of who is assigned to redact what, and then if certain files leak or are insufficiently redacted, they indicate who isn't all in on Dear Leader.

    It's not like a few more stories of Trump raping $whomever are going to move the needle at all, especially with how the media is on board with burying negative coverage of the regime.

    Also if you're wondering how this activity isn't some kind of abuse of government resources, keep in mind that thanks to the Supreme Council's embrace of the Unitary Executive Theory (ie Sparkling Autocracy), covering up evidence about Donald Trump raping under-aged sex trafficking victims is now an official priority of the United States Government.

    • andrewflnr 11 hours ago

      I guess they might try, but given all the other nonsense I certainly don't think the admin is organized enough to execute that plan.

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asmor 2 hours ago

It seems insane that nobody at the other end runs something as simple as MAT or imagick (twice) over it to take the text layers out before uploading though. I hope this is at least partially intentional.

baby 5 hours ago

My understanding is that many people were fired and replaced by loyalists at the FBI. I think there are a lot of incompetent people working there right now.

exasperaited 10 hours ago

Yeah — don't attribute to resistance what can adequately be explained by idiocy.

cynicalsecurity 12 hours ago

Let people believe it's deliberate sabotage. Unfortunately, in real life, minions of a dictator serve the dictator; they don't risk their live or safety for a noble cause. Any screw-ups are a result of gross incompetence that is typical for every dictatorship.

  • brunoqc 11 hours ago

    Maybe because facism favor loyalty over competence.

    • zerocrates 6 hours ago

      Arendt:

      Totalitarianism in power invariably replaces all first-rate talents, regardless of their sympathies, with those crackpots and fools whose lack of intelligence and creativity is still the best guarantee of their loyalty.

      • potato3732842 an hour ago

        >Totalitarianism in power invariably replaces all first-rate talents, regardless of their sympathies, with those crackpots and fools whose lack of intelligence and creativity is still the best guarantee of their loyalty.

        Same reason unions always work hardest when fighting on behalf of the worst workers. If you go to bat for a man who can't do better elsewhere he'll go to bat for you in return.

        But wait, the situation is more complicated than that you say? Why yes, that's exactly the point. Two of us can play at the stupid smug oversimplification game.

        While the effect being described is real to an extent, distilling it to the point you did is useless because there is so much more nuance. Why assume the place was staffed with first rate talent to begin with? And even if there is a lot of first rate talent many will stick around because they don't care who they serve (people not like this don't tend to make careers in government TBH).

  • andsoitis 11 hours ago

    Do you truly believe the US is currently a dictatorship?

    • culi 6 hours ago

      A man who tried to overturn an election is in power and is disappearing people on the streets without due process.

      The other day there was news about some ICE members who blew up the door to a family's home in order to detain a man. The man was a citizen. They knew that. They came to intimidate him because a few days earlier he tried filming their cars on a public street. That's just one example but these cases are only becoming more common.

      One thing that's clear is that if he tries to overturn an election again, he is way better positioned to succeed this time. ICE is now the 5th most heavily funded military in the world and the whole point of DOGE[0] was to centralize the government and fill only with loyalists.

      [0] NYT investigation recently proved there were little savings https://archive.ph/y5guv

    • vunderba 11 hours ago

      I wouldn’t go so far as to call it a dictatorship, but it’s definitely trending toward authoritarianism.

      Wasn't too hard to put together a quick graph of the past decade for the U.S. using the World Press Freedom Index (relative ranking and score) - an annual ranking of 180 countries published by Reporters Without Borders that measures the level of press freedom.

      https://imgur.com/a/4liEqqi

    • bdangubic 11 hours ago

      what is the US exactly currently if not dictatorship? is there a single thing “President” cannot do right now and if so who would be stopping him? so perhaps on paper US is not dictatorship much like Russia and China are not… We spend decades trying to fight these regimes and lost so much that now we are worse than them :)

      • nothrabannosir 8 hours ago

        > is there a single thing “President” cannot do right now

        Stand in the middle of fifth Avenue and shoot someone :)

        Have political enemies executed

        Get his face on Mount Rushmore

        Disband congress

        Disband the Supreme Court

        Keep Jimmy Kimmel off air

        Get Jon Stuart to shut up

        Get James comey indicted

        Get a national holiday named after him

        Etc.

        Even when we focus on things he tried to do, there is a lot he couldn’t. Let alone when you look at things he didn’t try to do.

      • chocoboaus3 10 hours ago

        The supreme court did just stop him for the moment putting the national guard into chicago

      • hattmall 9 hours ago

        It's pretty clear he can barely do anything policy wise. Limited tariffs and immigration / border stuff is pretty much all that he is getting done.

    • idle_zealot 11 hours ago

      It's not so simple a binary. We're definitely much less democratic than a year ago, and the bar was low then.

    • Loughla 11 hours ago

      I truly believe we're headed that direction. I've lived long enough to have seen a wide variety of presidents, both good and bad. This one is easily the worst one, in terms of bare naked power grabs.

      I believe Trump will manufacture a crisis before he's out of office in a bid to maintain control. I believe he will have learned from Bush Jr. that a simple war isn't good enough, and it needs to be a genuine emergency.

      I believe he'll do whatever he can to make that happen. Native born terrorist, or war with a close country, or absolutely over the top financial crash. Something awful that lets him invoke some obscure rule that lets him stay in power with congressional approval - he'll just skip the congressional approval part like he already does.

      • irishcoffee 11 hours ago

        This is one of those instances where I with hn had some kind of remindMe feature.

    • vkou 11 hours ago

      How would the roadmap for turning a democracy into a one party dictatorship differ from the trajectory we are on?

      • rurban 4 hours ago

        Which democracy? The USA isn't one for decades already

        • vkou an hour ago

          I've no doubt that if we plopped you down in the middle of, say, modern-day Russia, you'd be able to observe a few important differences in the political organization of the two countries.

          Fewer than you would a year or nine ago, certainly, and a lot of people are working very hard on closing the gap.

          Democracy is a spectrum. There have always been significant flaws with American democracy, but you'd be mad to not observe significant, active regression and effort by the government to replace it with something else.

    • ourmandave 10 hours ago

      The pendulum swings. It always does. And all the powers SCOTUS gave the executive branch will eventually be in the hands of the Loyal Opposition.

      If it swings as far back you might even see universal health care, sane gun laws, fair wages, campaign finance reform, reproductive freedom, science based policy making, reigning in billionaires, etc.

      • sdenton4 7 hours ago

        I have very little faith that scotus will have any consistency in their decisions going forward - they seem to be nakedly political, and backing trump. If the elections swing the other direction (despite their aid in gerrymandering), expect them to cry about the power of the presidency and start rolling it back as fast as they can push decisions through the shadow docket.

      • kergonath 4 hours ago

        > The pendulum swings. It always does. And all the powers SCOTUS gave the executive branch will eventually be in the hands of the Loyal Opposition.

        That sounds reinsuring, but it is completely false. The idea that the pendulum swings is just regression to the mean: sure, after a terrible president, the next one is likely to be less terrible. But there is nothing that implies that after a far-right regime will come a far-left one. In fact, if you look at History in various countries around the world, this seems very unlikely.

        > If it swings as far back you might even see universal health care, sane gun laws, fair wages, campaign finance reform, reproductive freedom, science based policy making, reigning in billionaires, etc.

        Don’t count on it. In all likelihood it will regress to the centre. The American culture hasn’t changed that much and American leftists did not suddenly become competent at getting popular support.

        • Eisenstein 3 hours ago

          > But there is nothing that implies that after a far-right regime will come a far-left one. In fact, if you look at History in various countries around the world, this seems very unlikely.

          Looking at the history of left wing movements in countries post-WWII, can you think of a reason why they wouldn't be successful and far-right ones would? The Cold War may have been a factor.

          > Don’t count on it. In all likelihood it will regress to the centre.

          The center doesn't exist anymore. The right-wing has labeled the US Democratic Party as extreme left. There should be a term for 'forcing your opposition to materialize because you are unable to distinguish between propaganda and reality'.

      • watwut 4 hours ago

        > And all the powers SCOTUS gave the executive branch will eventually be in the hands of the Loyal Opposition.

        They will find excuses to reverse. There will be some technicality, made up historical precense or some actually untrue fact about the world that wil totally make the situation different.

        Conservative heretage foundation group has outcome in mind ... and "opposition" is not their preffered outcome.

      • DANmode 9 hours ago

        Tell us more about the sane (“common sense”?) gun laws!

        I love these.

      • DANmode 9 hours ago

        > science based policy making

        One of my favorite trivia questions is: how long has it been since Congress has had staff scientists?

      • refurb 8 hours ago

        You act like Trump’s policies don’t have broad support with a majority of voters.

        • ourmandave an hour ago

          Polls can be capricious, but Trump's recent numbers with some groups have seen big drops.

    • rootusrootus 9 hours ago

      The country as a whole, no. But within the regime? Yeah.

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    • sneak 11 hours ago

      I’m still always surprised that there are adults who think it is not.

      The CIA, for example, is entirely above the law.

      • neutronicus 11 hours ago

        That's different from a dictatorship, though, especially if the CIA is not answerable to a supposed dictator.

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