Comment by qingcharles

Comment by qingcharles 15 hours ago

14 replies

I feel like there are a lot of iOS/iPadOS 17 and below devices holding things back right now. Desktop browsers are in a really good standards space now with their constant and frequent nagging for users to update.

stephenlf 8 hours ago

Speaking of iOS holding things back, my iPhone’s Safari doesn’t offer a reader for this post. Not sure why.

  • oefrha 4 hours ago

    iOS Safari's reader mode heuristics has always been mediocre at best, and it's getting less useful by the day as more publications knowingly cripple it. It used to be that you can get around some soft paywalls with reader mode, especially if you turn on "Use Reader Automatically" which distills the content before JavaScript kicks in to remove it. Nowadays that works on fewer and fewer commercial websites, and the other day I noticed something truly shocking on a pretty mainstream tech publication (don't remember which one unfortunately): I can see like two paragraphs of content before the paywall, but when I turn on reader mode, the content shown is literally a list of Christmas laptop deals (that is not visible on the non-reader page), with the title being the only relevant thing.

  • AmbroseBierce 8 hours ago

    The ai detected it was talking poorly about it and decided to retaliate.

leptons 13 hours ago

Apple is the only ones holding anything back on iOS. They forbid any browser except Safari. At least if they let Google Chrome or any other browser maker use their own browser engine, iOS could have a capable browser installed. It is one reason among many Apple is being sued by the DOJ, but so far no progress forcing them to allow other browser engines like they did in the EU.

  • mxey 22 minutes ago

    I can’t wait for websites to tell me I need to install Chrome on my phone.

  • delaminator 4 hours ago

    I’m typing this in Vivaldi on my iPhone 11 in the UK.

    I acknowledge my privilege.

    • eviks 3 hours ago

      you can get Vivaldi outside the UK, the issue is the web engine, is it different in the UK?

  • pjmlp 5 hours ago

    People can hardly wait to get ChromeOS Platform it seems.

  • kg 12 hours ago

    IMO if they had allowed Firefox onto the App Store (Mozilla have had working ports more than once AFAIK) it might have helped it hold onto market share - I think Apple is partly responsible for the Chrome monoculture.

    • least 11 hours ago

      If that were the case then why isn’t Firefox on mobile on Android more successful? Apple blocking other browser engines in iOS is the only thing preventing a complete hegemony of the web by Google/Blink.

      • NetOpWibby 6 hours ago

        Different platforms, different tastes.

        Facebook's Threads app has more activity on iOS than Android[1].

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        [1] https://pxlnv.com/linklog/threads-android-ranking/

        • least 5 hours ago

          I could be entirely off base, but I would expect Android to be more likely to have more users that would go out of their way to use a non-default web browser, given that it seems to be favored by people who like customizing things. The relative openness of the platform invites a different demographic.

          On the other hand, the default on Android is Chrome so there may be less motivation to change since it's the 'default' platform to target. But if Apple opened up iOS to other browsers, the likely outcome would not be Firefox gaining market share but Chrome completely taking over.

          I do not like that iOS doesn't allow for alternative engines but I appreciate that it's basically the only thing that even somewhat reigns Google in.