Comment by graemep

Comment by graemep a day ago

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> Two of those three little countries have to follow EU law without having any say in it - my point exactly!

The same is true for any treaty. The same is true for internal negotiations within the EU.

> Think about economic extortion from the US and China, how would little Lithuania defend against that?

Could the EU do much better than the larger countries can do by themselves? Especially in the long term its much lower growth rate means its going to be a relatively smaller and smaller economy compared to the US or China.

Despite all the expansion, the EU at the time the UK left was a much smaller proportion of the global economy than the EU at the time the UK joined.

saubeidl a day ago

The EU is both the world's largest importer as well as its largest exporter. Its economic leverage is unmatched.

  • graemep a day ago

    Its economy is a lot smaller than that of the US, and smaller than China in PPP terms, and is growing much slower than either.

    Do you have import and export number that adjusts for transhipments? What is the economic impact of the trade?

    Even the UK which was an EU member until recently, has a free trade deal with the EU, and is right next to the EU geographically trades more with the rest of the world - and that is including a lot of transhipment trade (look up "Rotterdam Effect"). You can find the same for lots of EU countries.

  • mytailorisrich a day ago

    The EU is actually 3rd for both imports and exports. Still massive but... 3rd. In 2024 (in trillion USD):

    Exports: China 3.8, US 3.2, EU 2.80

    Imports: US 4.0, China 3.2, EU 2.6

    You can't just add export/import number for each EU countries to find the EU number because EU countries trade a lot among themselves.