manuelmoreale a day ago

The kids might as well be idiots but they ain’t surrounded by incredible smart and brilliant adults either.

Can you blame them for wanting something different from what they see in front of them?

  • coldtea a day ago

    What the see in front of them (and dislike) was achieved precisely because EU has been going towards what they want in the manner it did, and has been run by the same people who would also run the full blown version of what they want.

    • manuelmoreale a day ago

      Again, I’m not saying “the kids” are wrong or right. I’m just saying that dismissing it with a simple “they’re idiots” is probably reductive.

      Because if you’re a naive young kid and you see what’s happening in front of you, what are you supposed to do?

jack_tripper a day ago

Kids are definitely not stupid. They just are more malleable to picking up the current trendy group-think pushed onto them by the media and education systems, while they just haven't dealt with taxes, labor, housing markets, debt and crushing CoL to bring them to reality yet.

  • croon a day ago

    I'm curious what "reality" would deliver them in terms of clarity/truth/policy leanings, and how it differs from whatever they're pushed currently.

    If I've learned anything from my 40+ years on this earth it's that there are no guarantees that adults/grownups are more reality-based than late teens, but they are usually more convinced they are.

    • meheleventyone 21 hours ago

      > If I've learned anything from my 40+ years on this earth it's that there are no guarantees that adults/grownups are more reality-based than late teens, but they are usually more convinced they are.

      Yes exactly, we're just seeing the usual tired tropes making the rounds to dismiss this rather than trying to engage with the ideas.

      • jack_tripper 21 hours ago

        What is the trope being dismissed and what is the idea you feel isn't discussed?

    • jack_tripper 21 hours ago

      >If I've learned anything from my 40+ years on this earth it's that there are no guarantees that adults/grownups are more reality-based than late teens

      You don't think that adult taxpayers with full time careers and mortgages have a higher chance at a better understanding of the state of play, than kids who can't spell their name without asking CHatGPT?

      • saubeidl 20 hours ago

        People more bought into the status quo are less likely to be neutral observers.

      • Timon3 18 hours ago

        "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."