Comment by mechazawa

Comment by mechazawa 3 hours ago

24 replies

More and more projects are moving to Codeberg, and I'm wondering; at what point will a critical mass be reached? Or will we end up with a fragmented ecosystem?

hinkley 3 hours ago

Oh no, our decentralized VCS will be… decentralized!

Seriously though the big problem to solve will be squatters, when there are three logical places for a module to be hosted. That could create issues if you want to migrate.

I would rather have this happening after a contender to git has surfaced. Something for instance with more project tracking built in so migration were simpler.

  • messe 3 hours ago

    > Seriously though the big problem to solve will be squatters, when there are three logical places for a module to be hosted

    I suspect Codeberg, which is focused on free software, will frown on them. They already disallow mirroring.

    • maccard 2 hours ago

      > They already disallow mirroring.

      In which direction? (I'd check myself but they're down...). That doesn't sound very open to me.

      • messe 2 hours ago

        I was slightly wrong. You can manually mirror things, but they have removed a feature that allowed one to automatically mirror repositories hosted elsewhere. It was originally intended as an ease of migration tool, but ended up consuming too many resources.

        From their FAQ:

        > Why can't I mirror repositories from other code-hosting websites?

        > Mirrors that pull content from other code hosting services were problematic for Codeberg. They ended up consuming a vast amount of resources (traffic, disk space) over time, as users that were experimenting with Codeberg would not delete those mirrors when leaving.

        > A detailed explanation can be found in this blog post.[1]

        [1]: https://blog.codeberg.org/mirror-repos-easily-created-consum...

    • hinkley an hour ago

      That… makes squatting more of a problem not less.

pan69 3 hours ago

> fragmented ecosystem

This sounds a bit like an oxymoron. More diversity will only help the ecosystem IMHO.

xeonmc 3 hours ago

You say fragmented I say decentralized.

  • IshKebab 3 hours ago

    I say "I'm not making yet another account to report this bug". Tangled is trying to solve that problem but we'll see.

    • myaccountonhn 2 hours ago

      That's the beauty of email-based approaches. You can just clone, do your changes and `git send-email`. Done.

      I think it would've been far easier to build a decent GUI around that flow, with some email integration + a patch preview tool, rather than adding activitypub, but oh well.

    • some_furry 2 hours ago

      I literally logged into codeberg using my GitHub account. It's two clicks of the mouse to do this.

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    • phoronixrly 3 hours ago

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      • crimsoneer 2 hours ago

        Wait, how is Tangled VC controlled? As far as I Know, it's actually decentralised properly on atproto, with barely any bluesky dependencies?

        • phoronixrly 2 hours ago

          Is it not backed by a registered in Finland limited liability company? Haven't they acquired pre-seed funding by Antler, a VC company?

      • hinkley 3 hours ago

        So how many bugs did you file on sourceforge when GitHub hadn’t quite killed it off?

irusensei 19 minutes ago

Git itself comes out as a very decentralized tool to me.

flohofwoe 2 hours ago

All those different 'git forges' use git as version control system and the same issue and PR workflows. There is no fragmentation, unless you consider one git url being different from another git url 'fragmentation' ;)

JoshTriplett 3 hours ago

Hopefully one of the efforts to build distributed pull requests will take off, so that all the forges other than github can band together and interoperate.

  • seg_lol 3 hours ago

    That would be the single best thing that they could do, it would make moving off of github a gain in capabilities.

Zardoz84 3 hours ago

I prefer a pletora of code hosting sites, that one massive hub controlled by a single one. We can see how bad is when there is a monopoly or cuasi-monopoly.