Comment by ta12653421
Comment by ta12653421 5 hours ago
>> There is even a recent paper that points out that LLMs will never become AGI.
can you share a link?
Comment by ta12653421 5 hours ago
>> There is even a recent paper that points out that LLMs will never become AGI.
can you share a link?
So you are dismissing it because of that? Certainly read the paper first and attack the arguments, not the author. It even has 10 pages of citations.
I have read it. It is nothing new on the subject, but it was just the recent paper I saw on HN and the person was asking for the link.
The crux is an LLM is and can never be intelligent in the sense of an AGI. It is easier to think of it as a way to store and retrieve knowledge.
How many articles on this topic do we imagine there are? Thousands? Hundreds of thousands? It is hopeless to read every one by any author, no matter how unrelated to the domain, and judge them individually on their merits. Being a subject domain expert is not a perfect measure of paper quality but it's the only feasible way to make a first pass at filtering.
Even if I did read it, I have no hope of understanding if it has made a fundamental mistake because I don't have the subject matter expertise either.
(I imagine it has made a fundamental mistake anyway: for LLMs to be useful progress toward AGI they don't have to be a feasible way to create AGI by themselves. Innovation very often involves stepping through technologies that end up only being a component of the final solution, or inspiration for the final solution. This was always going to be an issue with trying to prove a negative.)
> It is hopeless to read every one by any author,
It was a paper posted on HN a few days ago and someone asked for the evidence of my statement. I supplied it.
Now if they actually read it and disagreed with what it was saying, I'd be more than happy to continue the conversation.
Dismissing it just because you don't understand is a terrible thing to do to yourself. It's basically sabotaging your intelligence.
Sometimes papers are garbage, but you can only make that statement after you have read/understood it.
Use an LLM if you want.
It's a good read and good citations.
The core piece as quoted from the abstract: "AGI predictions fail not from insufficient compute, but from fundamental misunderstanding of what intelligence demands structurally."
Then goes in detail as to what that is and why LLMs don't fit that. There are plenty other similar papers out there.
Welcome to the world of papers. Have a read and get back to us. Dismissing out of hand is rarely constructive.
Took me a while to find again, as there are a lot of such papers in this area.
https://www.arxiv.org/pdf/2511.18517