Comment by joshstrange

Comment by joshstrange a day ago

Home Assistant is awesome and I highly recommend checking it out. Even if you have an existing smart house hub/platform you can often integrate HA in cleanly.

I used SmartThings for years and was hesitant to switch but I was able to control all my devices in ST from HA without moving/repairing/etc devices over. Once I had seen the power of HA I started a _slow_ migration over (took over a year cause I was lazy). The entire time the house worked just fine (except when the internet was down and then only the HA “native” stuff worked).

My biggest recommendations and I wish I could make this text bigger:

Do NOT use a raspberry pi for your HA host. They are unreliable and you will incorrectly blame HA for RPi’s failings (like I did). After moving to a dedicated cheap BeeLink mini PC my HA became rock solid.

You can play around with HA in docker or a VM as well and even host it there indefinitely but avoid RPi’s as your host, you’ll thank me later. If you want dedicated hardware (I do recommend that since smart house stuff often needs to be “always up” and the family doesn’t care/understand why your homelab is down, just that the lights don’t work) then go for a BeeLink or HA’s hardware offerings.

retrodaredevil 20 hours ago

Raspberry Pi is a bad choice for any application that frequently writes data to disk. Most Home Assistant setups will often have historical tracking of at least one data point, which means that it would be constantly writing to disk.

If you get a high quality SD card with more storage than you'll ever need (64GB, 128GB), you can have a stable system for a while until the SD card becomes corrupt. The larger SD cards help with longevity because it means the SD card can spread writes out over a larger area, which means it'll take longer for the SD card to go bad.

Make sure to always have RAM logging enabled on your Pi! DietPi defaults to RAM logging.

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marklar423 a day ago

Can you elaborate on why the raspberry pis are unreliable? Is it the SD cards, or something else?

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joshstrange 21 hours ago

I can't really. I used a Raspberry Pi 4 and later a 5, I used Canakits which provided approved power supplies for both, I used the highest-end SD cards I could get and then later used a special case/hat to instead use an NVME stick for storage. None of these were reliable.
I bet you could make a small book of all the times I've said this online and then had multiple people tell me "I'm running my whole life on a RPi v1, you're crazy, they are rock solid" (also people agreeing with me), I'm here to tell you I've spent literally hundreds of dollars following all the recommended guides and I've come to the conclusion that RPis are crap. I've owned every one of them from the original B-style one (I still have it) up to the 5th gen with the highest ram, I do not like them and I won't be buying them going forward.
> Is it the SD cards, or something else?
I have no clue, I'm sure it was the SD card at least one of the many times but it wasn't always something obvious. Sometimes the RPi would just lock up, no ssh, no ping, no web interface, and I'd have to power-cycle it to get it back up. I got tired of doing that and finally bought a BeeLink and it's been smooth sailing since then.

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noplacelikehome a day ago

Raspberry Pis themselves are perfectly reliable given a stable power supply and good storage — steer clear of slow and flakey SD cards.

The HAOS virtual appliance is awesome though.

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joshstrange 21 hours ago

> Raspberry Pis themselves are perfectly reliable given a stable power supply and good storage — steer clear of slow and flakey SD cards.
At some point the problem stops being my fault and must be the ecosystem. I bought official power supplies, I bought top tier SD cards, I bought special hats to use NVME with RPi, they all sucked IMHO. Maybe I am "holding it wrong" but after buying every RPi from the original B to the 5th gen with the max ram I'm done. Also the foundation seems to have lost its way (especially through COVID) so I'm not really interested in support them anymore even if I found their hardware to be reliable.

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iAMkenough a day ago

Aren't the "official" Home Assistant Yellow and Green boxes they sell basically Raspberry Pis with stable power supply and good storage?

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nirav72 21 hours ago

I got into ST about a year or so before samsung acquired them. Amazing ecosystem at the time and the ST community was great. I even taught my self groovy, so I could write my own device handlers. Then it went down hill couple of years after the acquisition. I still have my gen 2 ST hub and have been slowly trying to pivot towards HA. How easy is it to integrate ST into HA? I have a bunch older zwave wall switches and few other sensors that are tied into ST. But I really hate the ST app.

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joshstrange 21 hours ago

I was in the same boat at you and I found it super easy to use ST as the hub and HA as the brains until I decided to get Z-Wave/Zigbee dongles for my HA.
That said, I went to find the instructions to do it and it appears that Samsung broke the integration about a year ago and there still isn’t a solution. I’m sorry, it seems like I migrated fully just a few months before it stopped working and that explains the 1 device I still had on ST stopping working about a year ago (it wasn’t important and I never tracked it down).

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