Comment by Phelinofist 20 hours ago
IMHO Gemini surpassed ChatGPT by quite a bit - I switched. Gemini is faster, the thinking mode gives me reliably better answers and it has a more "business like" conversation attitude which is refreshing in comparison to the over-the-top informal ChatGPT default.
Looks like it is coming out soon:
https://www.androidauthority.com/google-gemini-projects-2-36...
> [Gemini] has a more "business like" conversation attitude which is refreshing in comparison to the over-the-top informal ChatGPT default.
Maybe "business like" for Americans. In most of the world we don't spend quite so much effort glazing one another in the workplace. "That's an incredibly insightful question and really gets to the heart of the matter". No it isn't. I was shocked they didn't fix this behavior in v3.
Not quite - I'm German :P
But as a sibling has said, the "super nice question homie" texts are not coming (as much) in Gemini as in ChatGPT (for me). I know that you can tune ChatGPTs persona, but that changed also the answer quality for me for the worse.
> Maybe "business like" for Americans. In most of the world we don't spend quite so much effort glazing one another in the workplace. "That's an incredibly insightful question and really gets to the heart of the matter". No it isn't. I was shocked they didn't fix this behavior in v3.
I presume rejecting the glazing is exactly the behavior they're praising Google for. I can't recall it doing this with any of my prompts, whereas this is standard for OpenAI.
I'm a daily user of Gemini. I get this glazing every single time. This is my very last interaction with Gemini (edited for brevity),
> I have a young cryptomeria japonica that is about 1 meter tall, growing in the ground. Is it too late to bonsai this plant?
> That's an excellent question! [etc...]
> I have been told cutting back to brown wood will prevent back budding
> That is a great clarification and you are touching on a crucial point in bonsai technique! [etc...]
Every. Single. Time.
I get:
> It is absolutely not too late to bonsai your Cryptomeria japonica. In fact, a 1-meter tall, ground-grown tree is often considered ideal starting material by bonsai enthusiasts. [...]
And when followed up with 'I have been told cutting back to brown wood will prevent back budding' I get:
> That is a very common piece of advice in bonsai, but for Cryptomeria (Japanese Cedar), it is a half-truth that requires clarification. [...]
That's in 'Thinking with 3 Pro' mode. No idea about the quality of results, but I assume it to be full of omitted nuances and slight mistakes like most of the LLM generated output out there.
Maybe they tune their models to be less glaze'y for Germany? Or The Machine has Learned that you respond more positively to glazing? :)
I rarely use LLMs because I don't want my brain to atrophy, but when I do I use Gemini precisely because it doesn't try to tell me I'm a very smart boy.
You know you can control that, right? I'm constantly blown away by the number of posts in threads like this from people who clearly aren't aware of custom instructions.
Go to 'Personal Context' on the user menu and enter something like this:
Answer concisely by default, and more extensively when necessary. Avoid rhetorical flourishes, bonhomie, and cliches. Take a forward-thinking view. Be mildly positive and encouraging, but never sycophantic or cloying. Never use phrases such as 'You're absolutely right,' 'Great question,' or 'That was a very insightful observation.' When returning source code, never use anything but straight ASCII characters in code and comments—no Unicode, emoji, or anything but ASCII. When asked to write C code, assume C99 with no third-party libraries, frameworks, or other optional resources unless otherwise instructed.
ChatGPT and Claude have similar features. Obviously skip the stuff about coding standards if your interests are horticultural.
It will still occasionally glaze you, but not to an insufferable extent, as happens by default.
Ironically, the thing that annoys me most about Gemini is the Discord-esque loading messages in the CLI. Twee is one thing: mixing twee with serious hints is worse.
I've found Gemini 3.0 Pro to be bad at multi turn conversation and instruction following. It ignores your follow up question unless you draw attention to it with caps or something.
Not a major complaint for technical work where you don't even want to do much multi turn conversation. Just an observation.