Comment by mcdonje

Comment by mcdonje a day ago

6 replies

You're kinda missing the point. It's quite common for "free speech absolutists" to defend racism and other forms of bigotry, but not much else.

mikkupikku a day ago

It is the most unpopular speech which is at the greatest risk of being censored, and so there is it also the best place to hold the line on free speech. If you don't defend the right to say racist things, then you've already conceded the fight for free speech and are now just negotiating your surrender.

  • mcdonje a day ago

    Again, missing my point.

    I'm generally in favor of free speech, so your argument is not new to me. It's also not relevant to what I said, since you missed the point.

    Also, you think racism is unpopular?

    • mikkupikku 20 hours ago

      Racism will get you fired from virtually any company in America, thrown out of virtually any business or school, etc. If you don't think it's deeply unpopular then I don't know what to tell you. It is the speech which is closest to being outright banned everywhere. It already is in most developed countries, probably most of the developing ones too (at least on paper), America stands out as one place it remains technically legal even though it will get you blacklisted from almost everywhere. The only reason it's still legal here is because the first ammendment is unusually strong. Chip away at it, and I guarantee you'll lose more than you're bargaining for.

      • mcdonje 16 hours ago

        Racist thought and language is everywhere. People supporting racist institutions and language are everywhere.

        These days, bigots are getting their teachers thrown out of school. It just happened at OU.

        Universities are dropping DEI because Trump asked them to. Many companies are acting similarly, obviously in some sectors more than others.

        Ask minorities if racism and other forms of bigotry are unpopular. You'll probably get a different perspective than the one you gave me. That is unless the only minority folks you know are Clarence Thomas and Vivek Ramaswamy.

nephihaha a day ago

The problem is in the definition. The British Government has accused Pro-Palestine protestors of it in the last few months.