Comment by rvz

Comment by rvz 21 hours ago

10 replies

All thanks to the US VCs that acutally have money to fund Mistral's entire business.

Had they gone to the EU, Mistral would have gotten a miniscule grant from the EU to train their AI models.

amarcheschi 20 hours ago

Mistral biggest investor is asml, although it became so later than other vcs

crimsoneer 21 hours ago

I mean, one is a government, the other are VCs (also, I would be shocked if there isn't some French gov funding somewhere in the massive mistral pile).

  • kergonath 5 hours ago

    > I would be shocked if there isn't some French gov funding somewhere in the massive mistral pile

    There is a bit of it, yes, although how much exactly is difficult to know. It’s not all tax breaks and subventions; several public agencies are using it, including in the army so finding out the details is not trivial.

whiplash451 20 hours ago

1. so what 2. asml

  • rvz 20 hours ago

    1. It matters.

    2. Did ASML invest in Mistral in their first round of venture funding or was it US VCs all along that took that early risk and backed them from the very start?

    Risk aversion is in the DNA and in almost every plot of land in Europe such that US VCs saw something in Mistral before even the european giants like ASML did.

    ASML would have passed on Mistral from the start and Mistral would have instead begged to the EU for a grant.

  • apexalpha 20 hours ago

    1. Big problem

    2. ASML was propped up by ASM and Philips, stepping in as "VCs"

    • didibus 20 hours ago

      For VC don't you need a lot of capital and people with too much money?

      Isn't that then a chicken and egg?

      • JumpCrisscross 18 hours ago

        > and people with too much money?

        No. VC’s historical capital has come from institutional investors. Pensions. Endowments. Foundations.

        • didibus 10 hours ago

          Interesting, is that still the case? And how is the decision to take those high risk investments made for things like pensions and such?

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