Comment by mapontosevenths

Comment by mapontosevenths a day ago

26 replies

I know it's subjective, but I care less about the tabs and more about the missing right click options. I'm also annoyed that 11's explorer uses literally double the memory to perform the same function with less options.

I know you can add the missing right click options back. I just shouldn't have to.

mapontosevenths a day ago

Just to double check... I loaded the same folder in Windows 10 IOT LTSC and Windows 11 Pro retail. Explorer.exe used ~500Mb peak working memory. In Windows 10 it was less than 200Mb. In windows 10 it also loaded about 2x faster, despite the system I'm using being objectively worse hardware in every single measurable way.

With Windows 11 you get less, and pay more.

  • vel0city a day ago

    Oh no, its going to use 1.8% more of my system's memory, what a nightmare, totally unusable.

    Why is 200MB acceptable but peaking to 500MB just totally unacceptable and problematic? The original Macintosh had a graphical desktop with 128KB of RAM, shouldn't anything more than 50KB be unacceptable?

    EDIT: Just checked on a couple of my Windows 11 machines, all of them have Explorer using <200MB of memory. So no, explorer.exe isn't necessarily using 500MB of memory. Something else is going on with that system.

    • kachapopopow a day ago

      because the same thing applies to the new terminal, new settings app, new everything, it slowly adds up.

    • mapontosevenths 21 hours ago

      Keep in mind that explorer now uses 100% more resources than it did 5 years ago, but it still can not do basic things that Mac and open source competitors can do. It's almost 40 years old, and doesn't really do more than it did back then.

      I don't think MS cares to be competitive at all. Here is a small list of things other file managers can do that MS would never dream of (because it would require effort):

      * Batch rename files

      * File metadata/tag support

      * Sessions/saved layouts (sort of exists in a half finished state)

      * Fish/SSH Support

      * Builtin hash/checksum support

      * Native dual pane views

      * Customizable keyboard shortcuts

      * Built-in terminal

      * Handle compressed files (outside limited zip compatibility)

      * Search with advanced features (offers limited support)

      * File versioning

      * The ability to navigate entirely with the keyboard

      * File transfer queue management (think Terracopy)

      * Builtin Compare/Sync

      * A Preview Pane

      * User adjustable UI

      * etc

      • thesuitonym 20 hours ago

        This might be the most unserious post I've ever seen on this site.

      • vel0city 21 hours ago

        A number of those features do exist in Explorer, a number can be trivially added with PowerToys, but I take it you're not actually interested in truth or reality.

    • hulitu a day ago

      > Why is 200MB acceptable but peaking to 500MB just totally unacceptable and problematic?

      Because only 200MB are reserved for this application. /s

      That 300MB may be taken from another app (CAD) which needs it badly.

      • vel0city a day ago

        Shouldn't you then also complain that explorer.exe is consuming 200MB when previous graphical desktops managed it in handfuls of kilobytes? Once again, why is 200MB OK, but 500MB, oh boy, that's just far too much. Couldn't that CAD software also make use of that other 200MB? Why not demand 20MB? Or 2MB? Or 20KB?

        How much of that extra 300MB is paged out and not actually in active memory? On both systems, how much of the total is actually paged out and not in current system memory?

        Are you trying to run a modern CAD system on a device with only 512MB of RAM or something?

kachapopopow a day ago

the stupid right click menu is a single registry key (and i think it's also in settings now), but yah dumb new defaults.