Comment by inglor_cz

Comment by inglor_cz a day ago

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I wonder how much art and science never came to be because the people who would have created it didn't escape the Nazi death machine, unlike Stoppard.

The entire group of "Martians" (von Neumann, Teller, Pólya, Szillard, von Kármán tec.) were Hungarian Jews. More than half of that community perished.

nephihaha a day ago

There are many people who never make it because they grow up under the wrong regime or in a place where no one will publish or publicise them.

For what it's worth, a lot of people think the Nazis undermined their own war machine by persecuting Jewish scientists.

  • inglor_cz a day ago

    They absolutely did, and German science never recovered its former dominant position after Hitler.

    People don't even realize that as late as 100 years ago, Americans would travel to Germany for first-class university education. Harvard was good for networking and decent for overall education, but top notch science was done in places like Heidelberg.

    • aa-jv a day ago

      Its still the case today, its just that America has gotten louder about its academic accomplishments being a key factor in economic success.

      Your average German/Austrian universities have plenty of ex-pat Americans, there for precisely the fact that the education systems have such variety between the two nations. They are understated and under-represented in mainstream culture about academia, but for sure there are still Americans making the pilgrimage to older universities, for the diversity and strengths they offer.

      • nephihaha 21 hours ago

        America buys a lot of people in for its universities today, although of course there are bright Americans. German universities today are stricter and more rigorous in general than American ones.

        I think the USA, like the UK, does tend to use name recognition. Oxford and Cambridge use interviews to filter out people, but are disproportionately represented in power structures.

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