Comment by bradlys

Comment by bradlys 2 days ago

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None of these executives are using data driven decisions. It’s said as much in the memo. It’s vibes based.

I suspect there’s more at play with this. Maybe they’re expecting attrition from this and that’s their actual goal. They never reveal their core intentions.

calmworm a day ago

Many executive jobs are little more than “being in the office” - they have to “go to work”. This leads them to think presence = work being done - they don’t know what actual work or productivity is. If they don’t have people present to lord over then their job starts to be seen for what it really is… a suit and tie in an office and nodding while saying “hmm” at meetings.

  • PleasureBot 19 hours ago

    My company's CEO comes from the sales world, and I imagine that's the case in many companies making these RTO decisions. His idea of getting work done is getting everyone in a room together, having some handshakes, sitting down, and talking something out. This is not what getting work done looks like to software engineers, and many other IC positions. The blanket RTO policies come from a lack of understanding how other people & roles work best.

mapontosevenths 2 days ago

This. The actual numbers show that remote workers are more productive and that fully remote companies generate outsized returns when compared to companies that RTO. Executives know this and chose to ignore it.

This is about the appearance of doing something, not actually doing something.

Izikiel43 a day ago

> They never reveal their core intentions.

Is it so hard for them to say, FU, office time now because I like it, or because we want to force attrition, or we bought all this RE and by god we are going to use it?

I mean, if they give the honest non vibe reasons, it would be the same, but at least honest.

Wall Street doesn't care as long as the stock goes up.

Customers don't care as long as they get the product.

And employees can't do anything other than vote with their feet.

So what's the downside of being honest?