Comment by mso3i

Comment by mso3i 2 days ago

4 replies

There is no tech leadership class.

Things have to stay stable long enough for a leadership class to emerge. In tech that is not possible. They are just leaves in the wind.

paxys 2 days ago

Not true anymore. Every large tech company is now filled to the brim with career managers.

  • subulaz 2 days ago

    in case this is not sarcasm... tech managers != tech leaders.

    most are one, some are neither, and a small minority are both. i have works for more than 20 tech managers in 30+ years, have managed technologists (ops, app-dev, network, infra, etc.) multiple times, and have hired and fired tech managers. i can count the genuine tech leaders+managers i've met on one hand. fewer around than ever nowadays.

    • simoncion 2 days ago

      > in case this is not sarcasm... tech managers != tech leaders.

      I agree that being management doesn't make one a leader. Anyone who has been in the industry for five, ten years knows that a leader may or may not have a management title.

      However. It has been the fad for many, many years now for Management to call itself Leadership. [0] This makes it slightly ambiguous, but not at all incorrect to refer to the "management class" as the "leadership class".

      [0] I guess their little, tiny, incredibly fragile egos got overly bruised by the years of derogatory commentary aimed at clueless managers, and they -because of their tiny, inadequate brains- decided that A Big Rebrand would change the nature of reality.

subulaz 2 days ago

i understood that reference... and, like Wash, feel like i'm "flying" a stone at gravity's whim while i pretend to be in control. tech leadership at a lot of corps do the exact same thing most days. a good reason to find your tribe asap, get out of corp, and assert some control.