mikeocool 2 days ago

Having a child definitely more than doubled my contributions to the GDP.

  • CTDOCodebases a day ago

    Consider two scenarios:

    A. You have a child.

    B. You don't have a child and decide to never have a child. To make up for the decline in population that year the government issues a working visa to an immigrant. The immigrant relocates to your country and sets up their life there.

    Do you think that A or B raises GDP more?

SunshineTheCat 2 days ago

Breaking news! There are no products or services in existence for anyone under the age of 18! lol

  • CTDOCodebases a day ago

    There are but who is producing them? Adults drive consumption and production. Children just drive consumption.

    From an economic perspective increased immigration is better than births. Why have non productive people around when you can just import productive people that pay the government income taxes?

    <sarcasm>If there are no children around then we don't have to worry about the children anymore and can worry about important things like the economy!</sarcasm>

JumpCrisscross 2 days ago

> Because children don’t contribute to GDP

The simplest model of GDP is productivity per capital times population. And the simplest model in finance is moving cash flows around in time.

  • CTDOCodebases a day ago

    So who adds more to GDP:

    A. A child of any age.

    OR

    B. A migrant worker.

    My guess is B because that person can produce goods for export while consuming local goods. Children (at least for the first few years of their life or so) do not contribute to production. They only contribute towards consumption. You could argue that they motivate the parents to produce more but increasing skilled migration in the parents industry can do the same.

geldedus 2 days ago

Not yet. This is why countries that are not shitholes take care of their children.

makapuf 2 days ago

Apart from being 100% a product of people which are almost often a former child.

idontwantthis 2 days ago

Of course they do. Everything a parent buys for a child increases GDP.

  • jenadine a day ago

    GDP is not measuring what is bought, but what is produced.

    • CTDOCodebases 19 hours ago

      Bingo!

      Some will argue that consumption drives production but according to the common definition children don’t contribute to GDP.

      Assuming governments are going to address population growth/decline then it’s a choice between incentivising births or issuing visas.

      Even in countries that have free healthcare births are in decline so it’s not the cost of children alone that is causing this situation. I would argue it’s the economic crutch called immigration.