Comment by potato3732842

Comment by potato3732842 2 days ago

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Life was worth a lot less back then. If they were putting people to death over every construction accident that claimed a life nothing would've got built. And back then they weren't building skyscrapers and suspension bridges where one key joint fails and the rest falls over with no warning. They were building simple fairly short structures that can only really kill you if the roof hits you on its way down and gave a whole lot of warning before that happened. Castles and cathedrals and city walls and the like don't fall down unless you intentionally ignore or obfuscate a ton of cracking a slumping and things moving, etc, etc. The people who'd have faced consequences like specified in these code are people who've actually done malicious things.

IAmBroom 2 days ago

> They were building simple fairly short structures that can only really kill you if the roof hits you on its way down and gave a whole lot of warning before that happened.

So, you don't believe roofs were invented until very recent times? The only building I've ever been in where roof collapse couldn't be fatal is my neighbor's chicken coop.

> Castles and cathedrals and city walls and the like don't fall down unless you intentionally ignore or obfuscate a ton of cracking a slumping and things moving, etc, etc.

Easily disproven. Here's one refutation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erfurt_latrine_disaster

Seriously: your lack of knowledge about historical architecture is impressive.

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  • potato3732842 2 days ago

    Yes, I'm generalizing. Yes, I know that opens my up to low effort "but exceptions" comments with a looking down one's nose town from you and your ilk. No, I don't care.

    A barn is a lot more forgiving than a tilt up Walmart. Castles don't pancake like the Surfside Condos (which gave a ton of warning BTW). I think it speaks volumes that your example is a rotted floor overloaded beyond it's capacity. This stuff isn't rocket science except in the rare cases when it is. Anyone trying to portray it as such is doing a disservice to society.

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Arainach 2 days ago

>Castles and cathedrals and city walls and the like don't fall down unless you intentionally ignore or obfuscate a ton of cracking a slumping and things moving, etc, etc.

There are many failure modes other than gradually cracking and eventually failing. Even in that case, by the time you notice such cracking, the cost of repair - if it can be repaired - is dramatically higher, and has tons of effects.

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  • potato3732842 2 days ago

    Yes, technically there are other ways things can fall down but they're generally exceptional. You can probably write off 100yr+ weather events let alone any consideration of seismic loading as issues for god. Nowhere did I mention cost. That things cost more to fix after construction is kind of a given.

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