Comment by forgotoldacc

Comment by forgotoldacc 2 days ago

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No. Impressive candidates are applying to jobs that pay somewhat reasonably, even if it's below what they expect. If candidates who are desperate are still completely skipping over a company, that says something about that company.

tarsinge 2 days ago

I am also hiring, in Europe with very good work/life balance but modest salaries and like the parent I'm also not that impressed with candidates, so to me the other explanation is that candidates have a wildly incorrect estimation of what is a somewhat reasonable pay in 2025.

The position with FAANG like salaries have reduced drastically. Companies paying 6 figures just to have the privilege to have an entry level developer with this then seen as magical skill of being able to type code was a dream that is over. Look at salaries of engineers in other industries, breaking 6 figures needs a lot of seniority, $150k is rarely heard of for ICs.

  • johnnyanmac 2 days ago

    I don't know what the market is like in the EU. I can just tell you North America is really bad with a deluge of talent. And sadly, many can't really live off of an EU salary.

    breaking six figures in California isn't that impressive unless you are literally single and out of college. But that quickly gets eaten up when rent is 2k+/month and you have school loans to pay off. When you're not paying nearly six figures for college and have your taxes built into most of your day to day life, you don't need six figures.

    • tarsinge 2 days ago

      I understand things are different there, but I thought even in California 6 figures at entry or mid level was a thing only in software engineering, so my point was that premium over other professions was evaporating.

  • ic_fly2 a day ago

    I’m in Europe too.

    We pay well. Very well in fact. We’re a small company though.

    I have a harder time hiring here than at my previous position with a much larger company, even though my current employer is superior to my old one in every way except for brand recognition.

    And from others in this space (who have at times tried to recruit me) this is not a problem unique to my company.

  • coolThingsFirst 2 days ago

    Are you hiring remotely in Europe? Gonna blow your mind with my skills if you are.