Comment by windward

Comment by windward 2 days ago

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You're zooming out and considering this negative sentiment with similar times in the past. I think that's wise. I think we should keep zooming out to other industries. Imagine you're an engineer for GM in Detroit in the 70s - would you consider the mean to be your contemporary middle-class lifestyle, or what it is in 2025? Similar for steel and semiconductors.

It goes for other places, too. Is the US's financial strength of today its mean, or is it where the UK was pre-Suez Crisis? Where Japan was in the 80s?

QuiEgo 2 days ago

Let’s hypothetically say we’re all doomed. Say our jobs are going the way of manufacturing in the 70s-80s. What’s the play then?

If I was a new college grad I’d stay away from programming, but that’s been true for a while regardless of offshoring, the job market is just too soft until managers figure out they are killing their senior engineer pipeline and go back to investing in people.

What about the people already in industry? What’s our play?

Live under your means and save as much as possible? Already doing it.

Learn a new trade? Does not feel realistic while working a demanding full time job already, but if things get bad enough, sure.

Use the political apparatus to protect my employment? The system is built to prevent me from doing that. Fighting the system very well could put my employment at risk, which defeats the whole “get what I can while I still can” plan, if I assume doom and gloom on the horizon. I’m also unlikely to actually change anything by taking that risk, so the ROI is horrible.

Is there some other outcome or plan of action here I’m not seeing?

  • windward a day ago

    Good question. I've gone with:

    >Live under your means and save as much as possible?

    which, while obvious, isn't being done by all of us.

    A part of me gets angry that collective action was so unpopular thanks to the view that it dragged down those who could excel individually. Every time I see software people act powerless in front of these steamrolling, enormous tech giants that control every facet of our lives, I think about how much power we had - and are on the verge of giving up.

    I also try to confront the future, rather than turn a blind eye to it. Can I be happy and find self-actualisation without this identity and financial status? That's a question everyone should think about regardless of what happens.

    • QuiEgo a day ago

      I love the idea of FIRE as a life goal and driving financial strategy. The core principal is you save enough money up that the dividends from your investment returns (the FI part of FIRE) is enough to live off forever.

      If you hit FIRE, awesome, you’re free from ever caring about offshoring or RTO or AI or whatever again.

      If you don’t hit it, you’re sitting on a pile of money when a rainy day comes.