maplethorpe 2 days ago

Is it really here to stay? If the wheels fells off the investment train and ChatGPT etc. disappeared tomorrow, how many people would be running inference locally? I suspect most people either wouldn't meet the hardware requirements or would be too frustrated with the slow token generation to bother. My mom certainly wouldn't be talking to it anymore.

Remember that a year or two ago, people were saying something similar about NFTs —that they were the future of sharing content online and we should all get used to it. Now, they still might exist, it's true, but they're much less pervasive and annoying than they once were.

  • fragmede 2 days ago

    Maybe you don't love your mom enough to do this, but if ChatGPT disappeared tomorrow and it was something she really used and loved, I wouldn't think twice before buying her a rig powerful enough to run a quantized downlodable model on, though I'm not current on which model or software would be the best for her purposes. I get that your relationship with your mother, or your financial situation might be different though.

    • maplethorpe 2 days ago

      > Maybe you don't love your mom enough to do this

      I actually love my mom enough not to do this.

    • Yeask 2 days ago

      Maybe you should talk more to your mother so she does not need a imaginary friend.

    • never_inline 2 days ago

      Please tell me this is satire.

      • Yeask 2 days ago

        Is just your average AI user. Too much "your are right" makes them detached from reality.

    • exasperaited 2 days ago

      > I get that your relationship with your mother, or your financial situation might be different though.

      Fucking hell

  • Daz912 2 days ago

    >that they were the future of sharing content online

    nobody was saying that

    • sethops1 2 days ago

      People right here on HN were adamant my next house would be purchased using an NFT. And similar absurd claims about blockchain before that.

      • Peritract 2 days ago

        And it's at least interesting that it's a lot of the same people pitching AI now who were all so excited about blockchain and NFTs and the metaverse.

stinos 2 days ago

I don't agree it is 'almost worse' than the slop but it sure can be annoying. On one hand it seems even somewhat positive that some people developed a more critical attitude and question things they see, on the other hand they're not critical enough to realize their own criticism might be invalid. Plus I feel bad for all the resources (both human and machine) wasted on this. Like perfectly normal things being shown, but people not knowing anything about the subject chiming in to claim that it must be AI because they see something they do not fully understand.

  • k_roy 2 days ago

    My main exposure to this was just in a couple of online social communities.

    1. AI happens 2. Every response (that are often memes in themselves), is complaining about the AI. Hell, some of them were clever in the way a brand new meme template was in 2015. 3. Memeing about the AI happens to the point where a few borderline freaking death threats start sneaking in. 4. Someone posts thoughtful original content, the whole place degrades into a “thank god it’s not AI” meme.

    Or, let’s fragment our already tiny community into NO AI SLOP

    I’ve seen this exact thing happen in three very niche communities.

rockskon 2 days ago

"You know what's almost worse than something bad? People complaining about something bad."

  • k_roy 2 days ago

    Shrug. Sure.

    Point still stands. It’s not going anywhere. And the literal hate and pure vitriol I’ve seen towards people on social media, even when they say “oh yeah; this is AI”, is unbelievable.

    So many online groups have just become toxic shitholes because someone once or twice a week posts something AI generated

    • littlestymaar 2 days ago

      This kind of pressure is good actually, because it helps fighting against “lazy AI use” while letting people use AI in addition to their own brain.

      And that's a hood thing because I much as I like LLMs as a technology, I really don't want people blindly copy-pasting stuff from it without thinking.

    • venturecruelty 2 days ago

      The entire US GDP for the last few quarters is being propped up by GPU vendors and one singular chatbot company, all betting that they can make a trillion dollars on $20-per-month "it's not just X, it's Y" Markov chain generators. We have six to 12 more months of this before the first investor says "wait a minute, we're not making enough money", and the house of cards comes tumbling down.

      Also, maybe consider why people are upset about being consistently and sneakily lied to about whether or not an actual human wrote something. What's more likely: that everyone who's angry is wrong, or that you're misunderstanding why they're upset?

      • permo-w 2 days ago

        I feel like this is the kind of dodgy take that'll be dispelled by half an hour's concerted use of the thing you're talking about

        short of massive technological regression, there's literally never going to be a situation where the use of what amounts to a second brain with access to all the world's public information is not going to be incredibly marketable

        I dare you to try building a project with Cursor or a better cousin and then come back and repeat this comment

        >What's more likely: that everyone who's angry is wrong, or that you're misunderstanding why they're upset?

        your patronising tone aside, GP didn't say everyone was wrong, did he? if he didn't, which he didn't, then it's a completely useless and fallacious rhetorical. what he actually said was that it's very common. and, factually, it is. I can't count the number of these type of instagram comments I've seen on obviously real videos. most people have next to no understanding of AI and its limitations and typical features, and "surprising visual occurrence in video" or "article with correct grammar and punctuation" are enough for them to think they've figured something out

    • rockskon 2 days ago

      What isn't going anywhere? You're kidding yourself if you think every single place AI is used will withstand the test of time. You're also kidding yourself if you think consumer sentiment will play no part in determining which uses of AI will eventually die off.

      I don't think anyone seriously believes the technology will categorically stop being used anytime soon. But then again we still keep using tech thats 50+ years old as it is.