Comment by maxaw
Perhaps I am of the sort you speak of, I feel philosophically content with the idea it’s atoms and other particles all the way down and there’s some pattern that gives rise to consciousness… and believe that everything is conscious to different degrees… perhaps this is naive? Love to hear any suggestions for reading to challenge this viewpoint if it is obviously flawed in some way
Can you explain the pattern?
I mean, not "look at the Conway's Game of Life, and extrapolate from that, we are nothing but this". This is not a proof, right?
What I mean by "damn if you try" is the fact that consciousness in the current state of things is unreachable. Anything you can say about it is unfalsifiable. It's as if it doesn't exist (although everyone experience the phenomena every day).
So it's quantum that gives rises to atoms, and then quantum stops there. Above that layer, it's atoms. Then above that layer, chemistry takes the torch, and so on. If you need something about "mind", it's on the psychology layer or something, and it's built on previous ones (evolution, chemistry, etc).
There is no room to talk about consciousness in this arrangement, so the problem is tucked away as "emergent" (other word is "illusion"). Meanwhile, there are phenomena that definitely happen (you feel conscious, don't you?) that would benefit from having an explanation, even terminology that is not poisoned.