Comment by jeroenhd

Comment by jeroenhd 3 days ago

7 replies

eCall mustn't be active until an accident occurs. The lawful interception lobby tried hard to turn every car into a free data point they could sell to the government, but their efforts have failed.

Last I heard they've shifted their efforts to making remote activation of on-board cameras part of the 5/6G smart car bullshit (which will of course be part of road safety requirments not long after).

closewith 3 days ago

No, that's not correct. The eCall spec requires self-checks that include registering with the network on at least every ignition.

However, more importantly, it means you can't lawfully disable the modem that the manufacturer uses for its own telemetry.

  • Lio 3 days ago

    Are you sure about that? My understanding was that the eCall self test does not connect to a network.

    That’s stated on the eCall page linked above. Do you have a source that contradicts that?

    • closewith 3 days ago

      Yes, I am sure.

      Annex VII only rules out connecting to the PSAP/112 side, not routine network attaches. To detect faults in the “means of communication”, the IVS has to verify that the SIM, baseband and RF path are actually usable, and you can’t test that without a network attach.

      In practice that’s what all current eCall implementations do. The modem attaches to the cellular network at each ignition so it can confirm it’s capable of placing an eCall. If you block the modem or antenna, the IVS fails its self-test and the vehicle is no longer roadworthy.

      • jeroenhd 3 days ago

        Does that mean the modem used for eCall is the same that is used to transmit telemetry? Because that's a level of shitty I hadn't even considered. That said, it would go against the spirit of the law as I read it.

        There are always workarounds, of course, but that does pose an annoying problem to patch.

      • kortilla 8 hours ago

        How is this possible? Cars start where there is no cell service.