Comment by chneu

Comment by chneu 3 days ago

31 replies

Yeah that's terrible advice. Learning to ignore safety warnings is an amazing way to wind up stranded or with a destroyed car because you decided to ignore a warning light

potato3732842 3 days ago

The first 100yr of automobiles didn't have TPMS and it was mostly fine.

  • pixl97 3 days ago

    I mean if you consider that death rate per mile driven 'mostly fine'

    • SoftTalker 3 days ago

      Check your tire pressures when you get gas, along with your oil and other fluid levels. Eyeball the tires every time you get in the car. These habits are not hard to develop and they will work even when the sensors malfunction (which is not infrequently).

      All that these sensor-based systems do is train you to be an inattentive car owner.

      • AngryData 3 days ago

        All these low profile tires do make it a lot harder to eyeball your tires to an acceptable level and tell if they are low. But low profile tires are just in general kind of crappy already.

      • ponector 3 days ago

        Many modern cars have no way to manually check oil or any fluid levels. Only way is to check the reading from the sensor via main screen.

      • ssl-3 3 days ago

        Nonsense. Information is good.

        I do have a walk around the car before I set forth, but stuff happens.

        Some drives are very long -- hours and hours between stops. I've had tires that aired themselves down during a drive. TPMS can alert me to that issue before I get an opportunity to have another walk-around, so I can stop and address it before it becomes a safety concern.

        It's fine if someone want to live in a world without monitoring systems; anyone is free to drive an old car with points ignition and a carb if they want (or mechanical diesel! with an air starter, even! no electricity needed at all!).

        And sure, there's a certain joy to driving something of relative mechanical simplicity.

        But I like modern cars. And I like things like temperature gauges, closed-loop electronic fuel injection, oil pressure indicators, ABS, traction control, backup cameras, and [I dare say] tire pressure monitoring. I like cruise control. I like headlights that turn themselves on when necessary, and off again when they're unnecessary.

        And as one might correctly surmise: It doesn't have to be that way: There's other ways to live. A person can also choose to walk, ride a bike, use a horse, commit to a lifestyle that is centered around public transportation, or whatever. The world is full of options.

        I've chosen my path, and you can also choose yours.

        (And no, that doesn't make me inattentive. My path involves both a belt and suspenders.)

      • mindslight 3 days ago

        Throughout my entire life, I don't know if I have ever seen anyone measuring their tire pressure or checking their oil at a gas station. Visually assessing tires can be quite misleading as well - my TPMS indicator was just on, visually it looked like one tire (its pressure was fine), and the tire that was 10psi low looked normal.

        Falling back to an attitude of not needing automation and instrumentation is a cope, and often a poor cope at that. The problem isn't the dash warning lights of the past several decades, it's the built in corporate surveillance hardware of the past single decade (and the corresponding violation of user trust in favor of corporate control).

    • neuralRiot 18 hours ago

      I hardly doubt a low tire will mean a death sentence, usually you can tell when a tire is too low way before it is a problem, same as many things in the car, just pay attention to it and you’ll know when something is “off”.

    • ErroneousBosh 3 days ago

      Tyre pressure sensors have done nothing to affect that.

    • elzbardico 3 days ago

      Frankly? I do. Remove alcohol and drugs from the equation, and driving is an absurdly safe activity. Those intrusive features have very little to do with safety.