Comment by watwut

Comment by watwut 3 days ago

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It is not like liberals would created religious colleges. Religious colleges were created by evangelicals and they have rules that explicitly punish things like "woman having male visitor" or "being gay" or "not being religious". If what you want is ideological purity of evangelical Christianity, then yes, you have to create own institution. Which is exactly what conservatives did.

Because it is extremely valid for other institutions and students to NOT be subject to the above. They were not kicked off other universities and less radical Christians still go there. Issue was that other universities did not punished non conservative thought and behavior enough. These conservatives do not want to share space with other nor to welcome anyone except those who are as conservative as them.

Your argument is typical "up is down and down is up" reversal. Conservatives want to create their own segregated spaces, because places that accept and tolerate non conservatives are just not acceptable to them. Somehow that is framed as problem with those other places not accepting conservatives (meaning not punishing non conservatives enough).

AnthonyMouse 3 days ago

> Religious colleges were created by evangelicals and they have rules that explicitly punish things like "woman having male visitor" or "being gay" or "not being religious".

Which is dumb, but we're talking about the major schools everybody knows that used to have ideologically diverse faculty and don't anymore, not the ones of lesser influence founded by Baptists to begin with.

The point of freedom is that other people are allowed to be fools without requiring you to be, not that everybody be required to choose which major brand of zealot they have to be.

> Issue was that other universities did not punished non conservative thought and behavior enough.

The issue is this:

https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/scholars-under-fire-2...

It's people saying "freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences" completely oblivious to the fact that freedom of speech literally is the thing where we don't punish people for speech. And then punishing people for expressing controversial/unpopular/heretical ideas.

inemesitaffia 3 days ago

This is nonsense though.

When academics were pushed out of Soviet and Chinese universities they had to leave to other locations or stop being productive.

The fact they can set up their own schools is a plus in the USA.

The disparate impact is clear.

  • watwut 3 days ago

    > When academics were pushed out of Soviet and Chinese universities they had to leave to other locations or stop being productive.

    That is not what happened with Soviet nor Chinese academics. They did not started new ideologically pure universities. Maybe you should read more on history rather then making up an alternative one.

    Moreover, these "new" universities are not run by academics.

    > The disparate impact is clear.

    The only disparate impact is affirmative action for conservatives. In fact, most universities you complain about are run by rich and conservative boards. They make decisions to please rich and conservative donors.

    But, they accept gay, women are treated more equally and that is something conservative christians cant stomach.

    • inemesitaffia 2 days ago

      Reading comprehension is a good thing to have.

      Go back and try again.

      The numbers we're talking about don't agree.

      More equally as in some animals are more equal than others

      The "old" universities aren't run by academics either.

      And conservatives aren't necessarily Christian