Comment by gnulinux996

> Interesting how many people in a hacker forum seem to be so pro-establishment

Here's my perspective:

1) Coastal liberal inner city males with a tech flair and an interest in Apple, have decided that due to lack of social skills and/or inner circle it would be good to keep themselves busy with creating a business. Actually, business is a Republican term, let's call it a startup, - hold that rainbow flag for me will you -.

2) They start to realize, that startups operate in an environment with rules, their "business plan" eventually bumps into those rules. Those rules are what made their piece of land - commonly called a country - a nice place to live.

3) Meanwhile, various interests parade on "news" outlets telling the constituents that "rules bad for business, business made us great, everything else tried has failed".

4) Deregulation is the pill, libertarianism/freedom/liberty talk is the bacon wrapped around it

5) The city male realizes that he has more in common with the bigshot businessman that he thought, its only a few billions that set them apart

6) Furthermore, it has been accepted as an axiom that anyone can make it in US (immigrant went from poor being rich feelgood story on cnbc anyone?)

Business establishment is legitimate power in the US, also they are not being pro-establishment, they are being pro let-me-do-this-thats-the-only-thing-i-have-going-for-me

Also, let's ditch the terms good/evil. They are straight up juvenile.