Comment by KingMob

Comment by KingMob 20 hours ago

I have the same problem, but I always assumed it was Apple's fault. I don't know why the HAs/Airpods have the final say.

I don't think there's a way around it on the iphone, but I was able to cobble a fix for my macbook at least. It uses Shortery to run a Shortcut whenever my HA connects. The Shortcut runs a shell script that uses https://github.com/deweller/switchaudio-osx/ to determine the built-in mic and switch back to it immediately:

BUILTIN_MIC_ID=$(switch-audio --list-input | jq 'map(select(.name == "MacBook Pro Microphone")) | .[0].id') switch-audio --set-input="$BUILTIN_MIC_ID"

Barbing 16 hours ago

Nice.

And AirPodsSanity (& SoundAnchor) offer polished options here. Maybe using that same script underneath!

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fouc 19 hours ago

Interesting, wouldn't the MBP microphone be even further away than the HA's microphone?

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Doohickey-d 18 hours ago

It's also my experience that people who use the Airpods audio in meetings = poor sound, whereas when they switch to the Macbook, it's much better.
I think the Macbook does some more advanced beamforming stuff to filter out sound coming from other directions.

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- mschuster91 12 hours ago
  
  > I think the Macbook does some more advanced beamforming stuff to filter out sound coming from other directions.
  It does, and that also gave the Asahi Linux team some serious headache when trying to get the microphones working on the ARM MacBooks - the team involved in that had to delve deep into DSP black magic to get usable sound working out of the three microphones [1].
  [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43461701
  
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KingMob 6 hours ago

It's more a sensitivity thing, which is related to, but not quite the same as, distance.
HA mics are not designed/oriented to pick up your own voice; if anything, they might be tuned to avoid it. After all, you know what you're saying.
Conversely, I'd expect laptop mics to be highly sensitive to the voice of the user.
In practice, before I got my scripts set up, people would complain I sounded distant, muffled, or tinny, when the HA mics were being used.

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