Comment by Aeolun

Comment by Aeolun 2 hours ago

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Ok, the big problem in this whole thing is assymetrical nature of the thing. The Israelli military is a military funded and shaped by the US one, and it’s a mammoth in all the ways that matter.

Hamas, after years of being supressed, is a group of militants with handguns.

The Isrealli response to those terrorist with guns killing and abducting some of their people, was to flatten and impose collective punishment on the whole country that those people came from.

I have no issues with them defending themselves, but I do with the disproportionate nature of what has been happening.

It’s especially ironic because the jews are one of the few people in the world that should have learned that lesson.

ilewn 41 minutes ago

The Palestinians overwhelmingly support Hamas, both ideologically and materially. So a "collective punishment" is not only appropriate, but is the best defense against further Hamas attacks and massacres towards Israelis.

What Jews have learned, time and time again, is that Hamas and their supporters have absolutely no interest in peaceful coexistence. Wiping Israel off the map through any means necessary is their primary goal. It's even in their founding charter.

iN7h33nD an hour ago

Exceptionally well put. I had to comment that this is exactly my take on this and I couldn’t have put it better in such a palatable few sentences.

FridayoLeary an hour ago

Check out Israels geography. If those "militants with handguns" hadn't gotten themselves distracted massacring people at a festival, they may well have reached Jerusalem and Tel Aviv in a couple of hours. As it is it's practically a miracle there wasn't a mass uprising of armed palestinians in the West Bank and Israel proper.

Your "assymetrical" point is especially bizzare. Palestinian terrorists have shown nothing but tremendous willingness and enthusiasm for attacking jews with literally anything they can lay their hands on including screwdrivers and vehicles. The total imbalance of forces doesn't deter them at all. Why would they having more weapons or Israel less change anything?

The main reason large portions of the strip has been flattened is because Hamas built tunnels underneath it.

You say it's disproportionate, but spend a couple of hours reading up israels history and geography. You might arrive at some conclusions about the nature of Palestinian terror (if the parent story wasn't enough). I doubt you could come up with literally any other solution. The only one i can think of is a mass evacuation of the gaza strip. It would have prevented a huge amount of deaths.

I think the main lesson jews learnt from the holocaust is not to rely on the rest of the world to help them when they are in trouble. I have absolutely no idea why you would think they must prioritise the moral lessons they learned above their own safety.