Comment by thfuran

Comment by thfuran 19 hours ago

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Yes, obviously it'd be the stuff in the terrarium rather than the space it occupies that produces heat, but the amount of stuff you can fit in it is determined by the occupiable space. And if that stuff is producing heat, such as by decay, there's going to be more heat with more stuff. Though even if it cooks itself for a while, it should eventually settle on a temperature determined mostly by orbital parameters and material properties rather than size, since the stuff can't be net exothermic forever. But greater atmospheric depth probably still increases equilibrium temperature by reducing heat transfer through that side of the terrarium.

jjk166 8 hours ago

> but the amount of stuff you can fit in it is determined by the occupiable space.

You can fit more into a larger terrarium, but that doesn't require a larger terrarium to contain more. Regardless of what is contained within the terrarium, it's heat production is limited by what it receives from the environment.

> But greater atmospheric depth probably still increases equilibrium temperature by reducing heat transfer through that side of the terrarium.

Greater atmospheric depth affects heat transfer by changing the density of the atmosphere, which is relevant for an atmosphere held to a body by gravity, but not for one contained in a pressurized vessel like a terrarium. A terrarium with a 1 atm internal pressure has an atmosphere depth equal to earth's atmosphere regardless of size (at least up until the point where the terrarium's gravity is comparable to a planet).

  • thfuran 14 minutes ago

    >You can fit more into a larger terrarium, but that doesn't require a larger terrarium to contain more. Regardless of what is contained within the terrarium, it's heat production is limited by what it receives from the environment.

    Go make a pile of mulch and monitor the temperature at the center. You will find that after a while it is hotter than ambient by a large margin because it is generating heat. The more mulch you permit to decay, the more heat will be generated.

    >Greater atmospheric depth affects heat transfer by changing the density of the atmosphere

    Greater atmospheric depth affects heat transfer by increasing the chances that an outbound photon of black body radiation hits a molecule that will absorb it and later re-emit the energy as black body radiation in a random direction, only sometimes still in a direction that will escape. It’s true that increasing atmospheric density will increase the chances of an outbound photon being absorbed, but so will increasing the distance the photon has to travel through atmosphere of any given density. The deeper the bubble of air, the more re-absorption.