Comment by hparadiz

Comment by hparadiz 21 hours ago

20 replies

I always wonder what would happen if you put a fully enclosed glass terrarium in space. How would it fair. Not big either. Grape fruit sized.

nine_k 20 hours ago

Sphere's surface grows as radius squared, but volume grows as radius cubed. Hence a small terrarium will quickly freeze, and a huge terrarium will eventually fry. There is an optimal size for a terrarium, given its orbit, that keeps its internal temperature within the habitable range.

Also it would need many more plants than animals. I would rather go with an aquarium.

  • jjk166 17 hours ago

    That's not how space or terrariums work. A terrarium does not spontaneously produce energy out of nothing, it gets energy from the sun. Heat input from the sun is proportional to cross sectional area, while heat loss to space is proportional to surface area, which scale the same for a sphere. A larger object will have more thermal mass which would make it take longer to change its temperature, but it will still have the same thermal equilibrium. Terrariums do not need to be spheres, so the volume does not necessarily scale as the radius cubed.

  • hparadiz 18 hours ago

    I imagine one like that in my kitchen which is currently moss, a succulent, and some weed that happened to germenate. All three are alive after two years so far. The bottom is rocks and soil. There's a clear water cycle too as water evaporates and collects on the surface of the glass and then drips down.

  • tbrownaw 19 hours ago

    What does volume have to do with energy balance?

    • thfuran 19 hours ago

      Heat is transferred through the surface area and produced by the volume (assuming there's something going on in the system that's exothermic).

      • jjk166 18 hours ago

        Heat isn't produced by the volume. Heat may be produced by something within the volume, but it's not the volume's existence that causes heat to be produced. There is no fundamental reason a bigger terrarium should produce more heat, nonetheless that heat production should be directly proportional to volume.

  • askvictor 19 hours ago

    Is there a 'just right' size that neither freezes nor fries?

    • thfuran 19 hours ago

      About Earth sized, I think. A bit bigger if the soil is low on hot isotopes.

ilamont 18 hours ago

Giant terrariums in space was the premise of one of the great science fiction films of the early 1970s: Silent Running

https://cult-scifi.com/silent-running-1972-movie/

  • wowczarek 13 hours ago

    I am me and I approve this message. The habitats, the people, the robots, and a beautiful theme song by the great Joan Baez. Silent Running is a great film indeed.

Mistletoe 21 hours ago

If it was in the sun it would be incinerated and in the shade it would freeze right?

  • nine_k 20 hours ago

    The other side would radiate, losing the heat. Earth, being in a similar position, is neither incinerated nor refrigerated, though different sides of it can be hot or cold.

    • 0_____0 19 hours ago

      Earth has the benefit of a thermal mass that's at least a couple times larger than your average terrarium.

      • nitwit005 14 hours ago

        Everything exposed to the sun will heat up until the energy it emits balances out the incoming energy.

        Being a larger mass just means an object will take longer to heat up.

      • mr_toad 8 hours ago

        Presumably a spherical ball of air would be able to transfer heat more quickly (from the hot to the cold side) than the same volume spread out as a very thin hollow layer.