Comment by kace91

Comment by kace91 a day ago

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The funniest thing is that somehow the executive class is even more out of touch than they used to be.

At least before there was a certain common baseline derived from everyone watching the same news and reading the same press. Now they are just as enclosed in their thought bubbles as everyone else. It is entirely possible for a tech CEO to have a full company of tech workers despising the current plan and yet that person being constantly reinforced by linkedin and chatgpt.

Loughla a day ago

The out of touch leader is a trope that I'm willing to bet has existed as long as we've had leaders.

I remember first hearing the phrase "yes man" in relation to a human ass kisser my dad worked with in like 1988.

It's very easy to unknowingly surround yourself with syncophants and hangers on when you literally have more money than some countries. This is true now and has been true forever. I'm not sure they're more out of touch, as much as we're way more aware?

  • ryandrake a day ago

    It's more than the fact they are surrounded by sycophants. It's also that, despite the mythology the executive-worship-industry tries to paint, CxOs and board members of companies are just not very creative or visionary people. They largely spend their time looking at their peers and competitors for hints about what they should be doing. And today, those hints all are "do AI". They're not sitting down and deriving from first principles that AI is the way--they're seeing their buddies steering other companies and they're all saying AI is the way, so they say AI is the way, too.

    • mk89 20 hours ago

      > They're not sitting down and deriving from first principles that AI is the way--they're seeing their buddies steering other companies and they're all saying AI is the way, so they say AI is the way, too.

      I think you're underestimating a bit. We must implement AI because they were able to sell it so good that they got billion $ investors (see all the money coming from Qatar/saudi arabia etc). That's a lot of money coming in that allows to innovate/etc.

      • ryandrake 10 hours ago

        But that thing they all were peddling and getting investors over could be anything! For a while it was "blockchain." Everyone had to do blockchain because everyone was doing blockchain, and investors were giving you money if you say blockchain. I wonder what it will be once the AI bubble bursts.

        I swear that every 5-10 years, corporate CEOs all get together in a secret meeting where they all agree on the next buzzword technology. They invite Harvard Business Review and the tech press to give them their marching orders. Then, finally, the white smoke comes forth from the chimney indicating the next bubble buzzword has been chosen, and the industry goes bananas over it for 10 years for no reason.

        • 1718627440 7 hours ago

          But there wasn't really a bubble crash from blockchain, or did I miss something.

    • nine_k a day ago

      Sounds quite a bit like stock market. The more sober and cynical of them see fads as fads, irrational but powerful movements, and ride the waves, selling to a greater fool.

  • nine_k a day ago

    Out-of-touch leaders existed for millennia. The "Emperor's New Clothes" tale was published in 1837 as a reproduction of a much older folk take. Sima Qian criticizes out-of-touch lords and emperors in his book about ancient history, written in 1th century BC. Maybe there is even older evidence.

ryandrake a day ago

No surprise, the CxO class barely lives in the same physical world as us peasants. They all hang out together in their rich-people restaurants and rich-people galas and rich-people country clubs and rich-people vacation spots, socializing with other rich-people and don't really have a lot of contact with normal people, outside of a handful of executive assistants and household servants.