Comment by phantasmish

Comment by phantasmish 5 hours ago

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One’s an accurate recording of how a real thing looked.

The other’s fake noise.

One’s a real photo from 1890. The other’s an old-timey instagram filter.

It makes sense that some folks might care about the difference. Like, I love my old family Polaroids. I would not want a scanned version of those to have the “noise” removed for compression’s sake. If that had been done, I’d have limited interest in adding fake noise back to them. By far my favorite version to have would be the originals, without the “noise” smoothed out at all.

Lots of folks have similar feelings about film. Faked grain isn’t what they’re after, at all. It’s practically unrelated to what they’re looking for.

eviks 4 hours ago

> One’s an accurate recording of how a real thing looked.

> The other’s fake noise

But since there is no such thing as the real thing, it could just as well match one of the many real noise patterns in one of the many real things floating around, or a real thing at a different point in time with more/less degradation. And you wouldn't even know the difference, thus...

> It makes sense that some folks might care about the difference

Not really, it doesn't make sense to care about identical noise you can't tell apart. Of course, plenty people care about all kind of nonsense, so that won't stop those folks, but let's not pretentd there is some 'real physics' involved

  • phantasmish 4 hours ago

    But… of course there is? A record of a real thing is different from a statistical simulation of it.

    • eviks 4 hours ago

      I think you missed the "a" vs " the", you can encode different sources that would have different grains, or the same source would have different grain at different times.

      But also a simulation called compression of a real thing is different from that real thing, so that purity test had already been failed

      • phantasmish 4 hours ago

        I just feed AI the IMDB summary and let it re-create the movie for me. Just as “pure” as high-bitrate h.265, after all.