Comment by smsm42

Comment by smsm42 21 hours ago

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It's not a backdoor per se. UK just banned using E2EE (at least for Apple users' data). I don't think though they can ban E2EE in general - like, if I upload a binary blob to a data store, how would they know whether it's encrypted or not? Short of banning all strong encryption completely (which even UK yet is not stupid enough to do) it's not possible to prevent. But they did not build a "backdoor" into encryption - they demanded that, and Apple refused, so there's now no encryption at all for UK users. There's no door.

They are just going for service providers that make E2EE easy for users - clearly betting on the fact that people they want to surveil would be too lazy/incompetent to use a custom solution providing strong E2EE encryption. And they may be right - most iphone users would keep using the same services even with the knowledge that the data is now widely open - and eventually of course will be breached and available to every kind of criminal, as it happened many times already with other massive data warehouses.

But I believe even is the UK you still can encrypt your own backup and upload it, e.g., to rsync.net and nobody would be able to stop you. Just most people won't.

egorfine 5 hours ago

> banning all strong encryption completely (which even UK yet is not stupid enough to do)

What we have in effect today (ban of E2EE, chat control) was laughably impossible to conceive just five years ago.

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