Comment by buran77

Comment by buran77 21 hours ago

> they are a gateway to everybody

They are, and most time this allows them to abuse you. But what do you think happens once you that gateway is blown open, isn't your front door next?

> There are multitudes of online storage providers outside of the UK's reach and jurisdiction

What I said above means that once you normalize the situation that providers have to open the gate to your yard whenever the state comes knocking, the state will just come knocking directly at your door. In other words I'm not sure the state will stop in its pursuit of access to your data when it can just incriminate trying to evade the law by storing it out of reach.

benoau 21 hours ago

> But what do you think happens once you that gateway is blown open, isn't your front door next?

Yes this is the way policing should work, if they think you have done something they knock on your door rather than go to Apple and Google and compromise the entire population all at once through the convenience of their monopolies. Bonus points if a judge needs to grant them the privilege of knocking on your door too.

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buran77 19 hours ago

> Yes this is the way policing should work, if they think you have done something they knock on your door [...] Bonus points if a judge needs to grant them the privilege
How exactly would they come after you if your data is "outside of the UK's reach and jurisdiction"? They went after the gatekeepers because they wanted a one stop shop for accessing people's data. They will look to take the same easy road in the future and there's nothing easier then framing any attempts to keep data out of UK's reach as a crime. They get your data or get you for not providing the data.
The law will be "stupid", tech savvy people will find ways around it. But it's enough to throw a or a noose around as many people as possible and tighten as time goes by. Authoritarianism 101.

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- benoau 19 hours ago
  
  > How exactly would they come after you if your data is "outside of the UK's reach and jurisdiction"?
  By suspecting you of a crime first, then they can establish access to your device through legal due process and access the data on your device or imprison you for not facilitating it. Same thing they do with computer passwords and whatnot.
  
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