yannyu 13 hours ago

It's about as accurate a Buzzfeed headline, but I guess that's par for the course on the internet these days.

It's not a "DNA sample" in the way that most people would consider it these days, no more than a used cup would also be called a "DNA sample". But to your point, it can still be used for surveillance and tracking.

Also, your phrasing is designed to make it seem like a huge overreach, when this act has likely saved millions of lives through early diagnosis of preventable diseases and early intervention on disabilities. I have personally experienced this.

So yes, I do think your framing here is inaccurate through omission of key facts.

  • pdonis 13 hours ago

    > this act has likely saved millions of lives through early diagnosis of preventable diseases and early intervention on disabilities

    Why does the state have to collect and keep the sample for that to happen? Why can't it be the private property of the parents, provided to whatever private testing labs are used to do the tests?

    • yannyu 13 hours ago

      That seems like a fair criticism. I don't know enough to quantify the benefit of retaining these samples, but I do know that the reason for keeping samples primarily relates to quality control, research, and development of tests.

      There is a process for people to have the sample destroyed, I also have no idea how easy or how often that is used.

postflopclarity 13 hours ago

the implication was misleading, yes. the implication being that California has database of its citizens' genetic data. when the reality is that CA has a _physical sample_ of blood.

  • DoctorOetker 7 hours ago

    A collection of cars is also a collection of steering wheels, a collection of tires, a collection of seats, a collection of engines a collection of seats, ...

    as blood contains white blood cells, and these cells tend to contain DNA, yes a collection of identified blood samples is also a collection of DNA (molecules).

    A DNA collection doesn't need to have been sequenced to qualify as a DNA collection.

    • PetitPrince 5 hours ago

      On the other hand blood samples degrade over time depending on how you store it. This makes DNA sequencing more difficult and/or impossible. Presumably the ROI (in a non-dystopian society) of storing those sample long-term doesn't make sense, especially if the primary usecase is screening for diseases (a random PDF from the Association of Public Health Laboratories says biomonitoring/biothreat samples are stored 1 year https://www.aphl.org/AboutAPHL/publications/Documents/ID_Spe... ).

      So yes a collection of blood sample is technically also a collection of DNA sequences, but it has an expiry date (a short one compared to the lifespan of an individual!) contrary to a DNA sequence that's pure data.

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chneu 13 hours ago

It's very inaccurate.

OP made it sound like Cali was genome sequencing everyone born in the state and then storing that.

What's really going on is they're doing routine blood tests.

So yeah, pretty inaccurate.

  • DoctorOetker 7 hours ago

    It didn't sound like that at all, it just says DNA samples are collected and stored. The implication that such DNA in such samples can be sequenced after the fact is not novel at all, every time DNA is sequenced, it is first collected.

rolph 13 hours ago

it was misinformation, the DNA in such a sample is not only miniscule and unstandardized, but also not treated for longterm archival specimen retention.

the blood "spot" is about general morphology, and antigenic specificity.

vkou 13 hours ago

It is as accurate as any of the incendiary Pravda propaganda pieces[1] about how the capitalist swine lived. Other posters have helpfully pointed out the specifics of why your particular spin on it is not entirely honest.

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[1] Often mostly factually accurate, but I doubt you'd find much common ground with the particular spin they'd put on describing your daily life.