JuniperMesos 11 hours ago

And making sure you're not making a security configuration mistake that will accidentally leak private data to the open internet because of a detail of AWS you were unaware of.

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rtpg 11 hours ago

Figuring out how to do db backups _can_ also be fairly time consuming.

There's a question of whether you want to spend time learning AWS or spend time learning your DB's hand-rolled backup options (on top of the question of whether learning AWS's thing even absolves you of understanding your DB's internals anyways!)

I do think there's value in "just" doing a thing instead of relying on the wrapper. Whether that's easier or not is super context and experience dependent, though.

  • anotherevan 10 hours ago

    Hmmm, I think you have to figure out how to do your database backups anyway as trying to get a restorable backup out of RDS to use on another provider seems to be a difficult task.

    Backups that are stored with the same provider are good, providing the provider is reliable as a whole.

    (Currently going through the disaster recovery exercise of, "What if AWS decided they didn't like us and nuked our account from orbit.")

    • bdangubic 9 hours ago

      aws would never do that :) plus you can also do it in aws with like 75 clicks around UI which makes no sense even when you are tripping on acid

      • happymellon 4 hours ago

        > 75 clicks

        Well 2 commands...

          aws rds export-task create \
            --source-arn <SnapshotArn> \
            --s3-bucket-name <Bucket> \
            --iam-role-arn <Role>
        
        
        Then copy it down

          aws s3 cp \
            <S3 Location> \
            <Local Dir> --recursive
        
        The biggest effort would be then running the Apache Parquet to CSV tool on it.
  • Dylan16807 10 hours ago

    > Figuring out how to do db backups _can_ also be fairly time consuming.

    apt install automysqlbackup autopostgresqlbackup

    Though if you have proper filesystem snapshots then they should always see your database as consistent, right? So you can even skip database tools and just learn to make and download snapshots.

    • ngc248 6 hours ago

      nah filesystem snapshots may not lead to consistent DB backups. DB backup software usually use a plugin to tell the DB to coalesce data before taking a snapshot.

      • Dylan16807 3 hours ago

        Databases have to be ready for power loss, don't they? They might not be happy about it, but if that corrupts anything then the design has failed.

        And again I'll emphasize proper snapshot, cutting off writes at an exact point in time. A normal file copy cannot safely back up an active database.

      • enronmusk 3 hours ago

        > filesystem snapshots may not lead to consistent DB backups

        Only if your database files are split across multiple file systems, which is atypical.

      • baq 4 hours ago

        At least one OS you’ve heard of can quiesce the file system to allow taking a consistent snapshot; I’d be surprised if this wasn’t widely available everywhere.

  • bdangubic 9 hours ago

    most definitely do not want to spend time learning aws… would rather learn about typewriter maintenance

fulafel 4 hours ago

And learning TypeScript and CDK, if we're comparing scripted, repeatable setups which you should be doing from the start.

  • sofixa 3 hours ago

    > repeatable setups which you should be doing from the start

    Yes, but not with

    > TypeScript and CDK

    Unless your business includes managing infrastructure with your product, for whatever reason (like you provision EC2 instances for your customers and that's all you do), there is no reason to shoot yourself in the foot with a fully fledged programming language for something that needs to be as stable as infrastructure. The saying is Infrastructure as Code, not with code. Even assuming you need to learn Terraform from scratch but already know Typescript, you would still save you time compared to learning CDK, figuring out what is possisble with it, and debugging issues down the line.

hughw 11 hours ago

gotta say, Amazon Q can do the details for you in many cases.