Comment by nusl
Comment by nusl 16 hours ago
Different teams, perhaps. No idea. A monster org like this must be massively disconnected internally, specially for non-critical bugs and such.
Comment by nusl 16 hours ago
Different teams, perhaps. No idea. A monster org like this must be massively disconnected internally, specially for non-critical bugs and such.
> Until I read the story about how Steve Jobs was mad about the fact that Mac was slow to start and asked teams to fix it. Surprise, they fixed it.
What was different then was that Steve Jobs actually loved computers and used them. That is not the case for our modern computing behemoths (Microsoft or Apple).
Dogfooding is a thing, and having a person in power who can say "no" is important.
I just assume the entire Windows team uses OSX on their own time but have some kind of neural defect that prevents them from taking any lessons from it.
New macbooks with a notch hide icons underneath of the notch and those icons are completely inaccessible without installing 3rd party software to manage your status bar, or turning off a bunch of other software with visible icons on your bar.
IMO that's a far worse UX than update and shutdown turning the computer back on at the end.
The sad thing about the current state of macOS is that I'd rather install an app to manage the menu bar than upgrade to the liquid glass monstrosity that is macOS Tahoe.
(I'm also not an early adopter. I only went to Sequoia from Ventura a few months ago.)
In a pinch you can reduce the spacing between items [1]. The default of macOS is ridiculously large.
[1] https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/406316/can-the-spa...
Sounds like a hard life. So much time spent on buggy, unintuitive, jumbled, and half-assed OS, then the only time they get away from it, they have to use Windows.
> I bet that Satya Nadella has grumbles about bugs and ads in Windows 11
Why should he? If he is really running Windows instead of macOS, what stops him from installing Windows Enterprise or IoT?
> Microsoft is first and foremost a business oriented company, and what matters to them most is feature set, compatibility, support etc. As long as things mostly work, it's fine. Usability is at the bottom of the list.
Blame their customers. Those people accepted random reboots for decades.
I think he's talking about that story about the MacBook Air Presentation to Steve Jobs where he threw the prototype on the floor when he saw how slow it booted so they decided to switch to SSD only storage to mitigate this.
It's however difficult to verify these stories.
I hadn't heard that one, and I can't find anything online. Considering that the base model MacBook Air had spinning rust for the first two and a half years, I'm skeptical.
The "Saving Lives" story I'm referring to is unverified but it does at least come from directly someone who was there.
It’s frankly wild how many weird problems and UX pitfalls I experienced with my first PC in roughly 2005 are STILL issues.
The fuck is Microsoft having all these engineers work all day on?
New priorities get funding and promotions, so everyone abandons unglamorous but critical work.
I used to always think like that and try to come up with these excuses.
Until I read the story about how Steve Jobs was mad about the fact that Mac was slow to start and asked teams to fix it. Surprise, they fixed it.
And it's not like nobody could say anything at Microsoft. Someone on HN posted this email (originally from a different website):
https://www.techemails.com/p/bill-gates-tries-to-install-mov...
However, my guess is that this email got nowhere, because the experience of using Windows isn't so different decades later.
What this means is that 1) Microsoft is first and foremost a business oriented company, and what matters to them most is feature set, compatibility, support etc. As long as things mostly work, it's fine. Usability is at the bottom of the list. 2) Windows is just not important to Microsoft any more.
I bet that Satya Nadella has grumbles about bugs and ads in Windows 11, and likely has run into this specific bug first hand. But when he decides that "ads revenue trumps everything" and "these are just small bugs that don't really matter", he immediately forgets about it all.