Comment by galangalalgol

Comment by galangalalgol 2 days ago

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I keep ignoring nim for some reason. How fast is it with all the checks on? The benchmarks for it julia, and swift typically turn off safety checks, which is not how I would run them.

cb321 19 hours ago

Since anything/0 = infinity, these kinds of things always depend upon what programs do and as a sibling comment correctly observes how much they interfere with SIMD autovectorization and sevral other things.

That said, as a rough guideline, nim c -d=release can certainly be almost the same speed as -d=danger and is often within a few (single digits) percent. E.g.:

    .../bu(main)$ nim c -d=useMalloc --panics=on --cc=clang -d=release -o=/t/rel unfold.nim
    Hint: mm: orc; opt: speed; options: -d:release
    61608 lines; 0.976s; 140.723MiB peakmem; proj: .../bu/unfold.nim; out: /t/rel [SuccessX]
    .../bu(main)$ nim c -d=useMalloc --panics=on --cc=clang -d=danger -o=/t/dan unfold.nim
    Hint: mm: orc; opt: speed; options: -d:danger
    61608 lines; 2.705s; 141.629MiB peakmem; proj: .../bu/unfold.nim; out: /t/dan [SuccessX]
    .../bu(main)$ seq 1 100000 > /t/dat
    .../bu(main)$ /t
    /t$ re=(chrt 99 taskset -c 2 env -i HOME=$HOME PATH=$PATH)
    /t$ $re tim "./dan -n50 <dat>/n" "./rel -n50 <dat>/n"
    225.5 +- 1.2 μs (AlreadySubtracted)Overhead
    4177 +- 15 μs   ./dan -n50 <dat>/n
    4302 +- 17 μs   ./rel -n50 <dat>/n
    /t$ a (4302 +- 17)/(4177 +- 15)
    1.0299 +- 0.0055
    /t$ a 299./55
    5.43636... # kurtosis=>5.4 sigmas is not so significant
Of course, as per my first sentence, the best benchmarks are your own applications run against your own data and its idiosyncratic distributions.

EDIT: btw, /t -> /tmp which is a /dev/shm bind mount while /n -> /dev/null.

adgjlsfhk1 2 days ago

In Julia, at least, bounds checks tend to be a pretty minor hit (~20%) unless the bounds check gets in the way of vectorization