Comment by foldr

Comment by foldr 2 days ago

7 replies

If you read HN you might get that impression, but that vast majority of software that needs security and good performance is being written in Java.

dana321 2 days ago

If you were building a programming language, would you write it in Java or Rust?

  • pjmlp 15 hours ago

    In those two alone, Java.

    There is no reason I would care about borrow checking implementing a compiler, and besides all the tooling, Java also has stuff like ANTRLR and MPS, and naturally Graal is a good playground for compiler backend tooling.

    However in general, I would rather look into OCaml, Haskell, F#, Scala.

  • childintime 2 days ago

    Graal and Truffle make the JVM look attractive, especially for this case!

  • foldr 2 days ago

    I'm not personally a fan of Java, but if I was implementing a compiler, I'd pick a language with GC. There's pretty much no downside to a GC in that context, and it gives you more flexibility when working with graph data structures.

    If 'building a programming language' means writing an interpreter or VM, then I can see the attraction of Rust for that case. But writing interpreters and VMs is like 0.0001% of the programming that gets done in the world.

pjmlp 15 hours ago

Alongside C# in more Microsoft influenced culture shops. :)

VBprogrammer a day ago

I wouldn't be surprised if that was closer to the truth. A heck of a lot of boring software runs on the JVM. That said, it's a slightly different niche from command line tools.