Comment by Culonavirus

Comment by Culonavirus 2 days ago

15 replies

> The human is reduced to the ultimate consumption machine.

Question is, if the AI bros are right about a "new industrial revolution", will there be consumers to consume if all the wealth is concentrated in the top 1-2% of the population? (the owners of AI hardware and software)

impossiblefork 2 days ago

If that happens it won't be the AI people who benefit. The wealth will be concentrated among the present capital owners. Even many top AI experts who contributed critical research won't become rich.

You'll see the wealth concentration you talk of, but it'll be completely different people who get this wealth, maybe even people who own businesses where wages are a large outlay.

overfeed a day ago

This is why they are looking at government coffers with a hunger in their eyes. They don't care for the long term societal stability; the richest of them fantasize riding it out in their island bunkers.

ddalex 2 days ago

I keep seeing this worry about "who will consume?!!?" This is entirely unfounded - the AI will develop its own marketplace and AI will consume.

The question is, will be there anything left for humans to consume ? will we survive ?

  • Thorrez 2 days ago

    Currently AI isn't allowed to own assets AFAIK.

    • ddalex 2 days ago

      Of course they are allowed, they're called "corporations" because they have a "body" and legal rights.

      The datacenter is held by a corporation, and the corporation does what the resident AI wants it to do.

      • Thorrez 20 hours ago

        Who owns the corporation though? It has to be humans. And corporations need to have a board of directors composed of humans.

  • vbezhenar 2 days ago

    Buy acre of land, plant potatoes, raise chicken, pay your tithe to your landlord. People will survive, for sure. Not all of them, but enough.

    • jeremyjh 2 days ago

      There won’t be any such leases if machines can make more productive use of the land than a potato farmer.

simianwords 2 days ago

The answer is already in your question. The original Industrial Revolution concentrated wealth and yet increased the baseline wealth for everyone else.

There is no reason to believe otherwise in this revolution.

  • rogerrogerr 2 days ago

    Though for those of us above the current baseline (e.g. basically everyone reading this), it’s not guaranteed that the new baseline will be above our current lifestyle.

    • simianwords a day ago

      Why? Industrial Revolution increased everyone’s baseline

      • rogerrogerr a day ago

        If you’re a software bro making $300k today, and lose your job to AI, it’s very unlikely that the new baseline for everyone is going to be that of a $300k income. At least not anytime soon.

reaperducer 2 days ago

Question is, if the AI bros are right about a "new industrial revolution", will there be consumers to consume if all the wealth is concentrated in the top 1-2% of the population?

Who cares? That's two quarters away. What matters is that I got my Lambo and my speedboat today. Let the poors worry about the future.