Comment by Jaygles

Comment by Jaygles 2 days ago

I don't think that is what the original commenter was getting at. In your case, the company is actively choosing to make changes. Whether its for a good reason, or leads to a good outcome, is beside the point.

LLMs being inherently non-deterministic means using this technology as the foundation of your UI will mean your UI is also non-deterministic. The changes that stem from that are NOT from any active participation of the authors/providers.

This opens a can of worms where there will always be a potential for the LLM to spit out extremely undesirable changes without anyone knowing. Maybe your bank app one day doesn't let you access your money. This is a danger inherent and fundamental to LLMs.

admax88qqq 2 days ago

Right I get tha. The point I’m making is that from a users perspective it’s functionally very similar. A non deterministic llm or a non deterministic company full of designers and engineers.

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lazide 2 days ago

Regardless of what changes the bank makes, it’s not going to let you access someone else’s money. This llm very well might.

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- array_key_first a day ago
  
  Well, software has been known to have vulnerabilities...
  Consider this: the bank teller is non-deterministic, too. They could give you 500 dollars of someone else's money. But they don't, generally.
  
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  an_guy a day ago
  
  Bank tellers are deterministic though. They have a set protocol for each cases and escalate unknown cases to a more deterministic point of contact.
  It will be difficult to incorporate relative access or restrictions to features with respect to users current/known state or actions. Might as well write the entire web app at that point.
  
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  array_key_first 19 hours ago
  
  I think the bank teller's systems and processes are deterministic, but the teller itself is not. They could even rob the bank, if they wanted to. They could shoot the customers. They don't, generally, but they can.
  I think, if we can efficiently capture a way to "make" LLMs conform to a set of processes, you can cut out the app and just let the LLM do it. I don't think this makes any sense for maybe the next decade, but perhaps at some point it will. And, in such time, software engineering will no longer exist.
  
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