Comment by MangoCoffee

Comment by MangoCoffee 2 days ago

5 replies

Here's why I don't get why people are badmouthing AI assist tools from Claude for Excel to Cursor to any new AI assist tool.

Why not try it out, and if it doesn't work for you or creates more work for you, then ditch it. All these AI assist tools are just tools.

tjr 2 days ago

Anecdotally, I've seen people do just that. Say, "I've tried it, it either didn't help me at all, or it didn't help me enough to be worth messing with."

But pretty consistently, such claims are met with accusations of not having tried it correctly, or not having tried it with the best/newest AI model, or not having tried it for long enough.

Thus, it seems that if you don't agree with maximum usage of AI, you must be wrong and/or stupid. I can understand that fostering feeling the need to criticize AI rather than just opt out.

  • MangoCoffee 2 days ago

    i get your point. i've mixed result with AI tool like Github copilot and Jetbrains Junie.

  • phyzome 2 days ago

    Yeah, this is my precise experience. No matter what I say, some AI booster will show up to argue that I didn't experience what I experienced.

    (And if I enjoyed being gaslighted, I'd just be using the LLMs in the first place.)

Konnstann 2 days ago

The problem arises when there's outside pressure to use the tools, or now you're maintaining code written by someone else through the use of the tools, where it could have been good enough for them because they don't have to deal with downstream effects. At least that's been my negative experience with AI coding assistance. You could say "just get a new job" but unfortunately that's hard.

  • MangoCoffee 2 days ago

    >You're maintaining code written by someone else through the use of these tools, where it could have been good enough for them.

    I believe everyone has to deal with that, AI or not. There are bad human coders.

    I've done integration for several years. There are integrations done with tools like Dell Boomi (no-code/low-code) that work but are hard to maintain, like you said. But what can you do? Your employer uses that tool to get it running until it can't anymore, as most no-code/low-code tools can get you to your goal most of the time. But when there's no "connector" or third-party connector that costs an arm and a leg, or hiring a Dell Boomi specialist to code that last mile, which will also cost an arm or a leg, then you turn to your own IT team to come up with a solution.

    It's all part of IT life. When you're not the decision-maker, that's what you have to deal with. I'm not going to blame Dell Boomi for making my work extra hard or whatnot. It's just a tool they picked.

    I am just saying that a tool is a tool. You can see many real life examples where you'll be pressured into using a tool and maintaining something created by such a tool, and not just in IT but in every field.