Comment by aspenmayer

Comment by aspenmayer 2 days ago

Did you copy and paste the numbered list from somewhere else? That isn’t how folks on HN typically format things here, and it seems reminiscent of AI output, which is not allowed under the HN guidelines.

> I agree there may be some folks in the US who delay diagnosis but population-wise, data doesn't support that.

We aren’t talking about population-level statistics in this thread, but rather a specific named individual meeting their personal healthcare costs, so your point is off-topic, not OP’s.

tptacek 2 days ago

Both of you are hashing something out that 'dang has already called out as off-topic across the thread.

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aspenmayer 2 days ago

Dang has told me more than once to let the mods do the moderating and to not hash it out amongst ourselves, as it steps on their toes and makes any enforcement by mods seem selective. Email and/or flag, and move along.
I don’t work here, and neither do you, so let’s both agree to disagree on it being on-topic or not, as it’s not my place to speak for dang or the other mods, and it’s not yours either, for that matter.

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  aspenmayer a day ago
  
  They should say so in their bio, and they should not speak for each other, and so on. It’s messy and unprofessional as it is, and big if true.
  I don’t appreciate you jumping into the thread to dogpile either, but you do you.
  
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thesmtsolver a day ago

> Did you copy and paste the numbered list from somewhere else? That isn’t how folks on HN typically format things here, and it seems reminiscent of AI output, which is not allowed under the HN guidelines.

No. I really wish you would have bravely responded to the points rather than accuse me. Do the guidelines encourage or discourage good faith arguments?

That "numbered list" is called a proof or argument. My PhD was in mathematical logic (see my user name).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_proof

https://people.cs.pitt.edu/~milos/courses/cs441/lectures/Cla...

An AI accusation on top of misrepresenting that the original point OP made was about population-level patterns.

> This is one reason foreign doctors come to the US to study and train. Modern countries with Universal Health Care treat at stage 1 and 2 with 3 and 4 being rare ... except for the USA. Need to study advance cancer and aggressive, this USA is a great place.

I don't think it is productive for us to continue this conversation. It is really sad that minor formatting and rudimentary logic is all it takes for some people to suspect AI usage.

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> If you reread what I wrote, I didn’t say you were AI or not using it, merely bringing to your and the other readers’ attention that your formatting wasn’t the norm for many folks who post on this site, whereas it is the norm for many AI-generated outputs.

Ah, the classic. "Did you beat your wife? I didn't make accusations! I am just questions!"

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aspenmayer a day ago

> An AI accusation on top of not grasping that the point OP made was about population-level patterns.
If you reread what I wrote, I didn’t say you were AI or using it, or not, but merely bringing to your and the other readers’ attention that your formatting wasn’t the norm for many folks who post on this site, whereas it is the norm for many AI-generated outputs.
That the conclusion you draw is one of being a victim of a false accusation, when none was laid at your feet? “A guilty conscience needs no accuser,” so they say.
> I don't think it is productive for me to continue this conversation.
On this point, I am full agreement. Apologies if I have upset you or wasted your time. I found your points well-reasoned but a diversion to what was supposedly already beside the point, so I will only say that two wrongs don’t make a right, but three lefts do. All roads lead to Rome, and we got there together in the end.

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