Comment by terminalshort

Comment by terminalshort 5 hours ago

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If companies want to reward executives directly they can cut out shareholders entirely and pay salaries and bonuses. If companies want to reward shareholders (including executives) they can pay dividends (which Apple did do under Jobs). Nothing about the priorities of companies changed with share buybacks.

nyeah 5 hours ago

For one thing, buybacks aren't charged against profits. Compensation is.

  • lotsofpulp 5 hours ago

    What does that even mean? Both stock buybacks and dividends are the distribution of profit.

    Compensation expenses (such as stock options, RSUs, etc) are accounted as expenses, which of course reduces profit.

    • nyeah 5 hours ago

      Here's what you said: "If companies want to reward executives directly they can cut out shareholders entirely and pay salaries and bonuses. If companies want to reward shareholders (including executives) they can pay dividends (which Apple did do under Jobs). Nothing about the priorities of companies changed with share buybacks."

      My response (and the whole thread) is pointing out that buybacks are another way to reward executives who have received shares as compensation. Buybacks are not reported as an expense. They are reported as an investment.

      This is all boilerplate, very far from "what does that even mean?" territory.

      • badpun 4 hours ago

        Dividends work as well for executives rewarded with stock (unless it's options).

        • nyeah 3 hours ago

          Buybacks are sort of pay-in-kind dividends, sure. Nobody really loves returning actual money to investors. It's contrary to nature.