Comment by echelon

Comment by echelon 6 hours ago

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> I read or heard someplace that at many universities tuition paid by students in the social sciences is effectively subsidizing the STEM fields

Diploma mill universities in my state are consolidating the smaller STEM universities and trade schools to build football and sports programs, gyms, and "lifestyle" amenities.

This university in particular [1] mints basket weaving degrees and has used consolidation to build sports programs [2] and lavish facilities for sports.

It's also been a revolving door of politician to high-ranking, high-compensation executive staff positions.

This university [3] has used funding to acquire properties from the state, such as the 1996 Olympic Stadium [4].

Neither of these universities does real, impactful research. The latter is ranked as an R1, but everyone at the "real" R1s in our state will tell you this is a fabrication. They're diploma mills and extract six figures from their student body. They turn this money into sports facilities and upper level faculty pay.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennesaw_State_University

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennesaw_State_Owls_football

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_State_University

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Olympic_Stadium

treis 4 hours ago

This is absurd. These universities aren't diploma mills. They're solid institutions in the "directional state U" tier.

  • terminalshort 2 hours ago

    Georgia State has an average SAT score of 1070. Nobody with a brain goes there. Just a societally sanctioned diploma scam for people who would be much better served by starting work right out of HS.

    • treis 34 minutes ago

      That's slightly above the average of SAT test takers which puts them top 1/3ish of high school students. Silly to think they don't have a brain

  • echelon an hour ago

    You clearly aren't familiar. These "universities" are a step above DeVry. They might be worse in that they cost an arm and a leg to attend.

    I used to tutor CS students at several different universities during my first two years at college. I would bet my arm that none of the ones I taught from KSU wound up with a career in software.

    The student perspective at these schools is that they're there for the credential, not for the learning. Even at the risk of false negatives, I would actively filter out resumes listing schools like these. I would much sooner interview a non-degree holder.

    • treis 33 minutes ago

      I know several graduates of GA State and KSU. Including one KSU grad that works as a software engineer.